I posted earlier how Toby was doing so well on the lamb ZP. Well, I spoke too soon. He's got very loose stools again. I think that the next step is to mix it with kibble. So tomorrow I am going to pick up a bag of Acana or Fromm from the specialty pet store to mix in. I'm at a loss, hopefully this works.
Oh Ashley,
I hope the kibble mixed with ZP works! I hope Toby gets back to "normal" soon. (Okay that was my best way to say I hope Toby's stools firm up soon but I was trying to do so in a polite way but I don't think it worked.)
Oh no! Poor Toby. I'm interested in what the outcome will be, as we're experiencing the same thing with half kibble half ziwi. I'm going to try one meal of kibble and the other just ziwi and see what happens.
I feel your pain. I went through this with Chance. I thought we'd never get his tummy settled. He was diagnosed with IBD. My thoughts are with you. Hang in there. Hugs and kisses for dear little Toby. xxx
Ash it sounds like he can't tolerate the ZP, it may just be too rich for Toby. I've had great success with Fromm for a couple years now, maybe you can try that? I'm sure your local boutique will have some samples to try. Also Acana is sold in trial sizes for like $3 so you can see which he likes better! Hope his stool firms up really fast!! Xox!
That's what I think the issue is with Odie. If half kibble half ziwi doesn't work with Toby, just try kibble and see if his stools firm up. When I did this with Ode the first time, her diarrhea was gone in a day.
Yeah, I think I am just going to do straight kibble. On my way to the store now to find a kibble. I'm going to give the ZP to Rocky... My mom is thrilled- free food for a month for her chi, lol.
I truly think it is too rich for him. He's always had a sensitive tummy (my grandmas husband gave him a tiny piece of steak and he was sick for days, and dietary change is difficult for him). And he did fine on the homecooked chicken and rice- but I can't keep him on that log term, it isn't a balanced diet.
The pumpkin didn't work over the period of weeks I have it to him. The probiotics aren't working. I've tried two different meat sources. No parasites or bacterial issue. Only common denominator is the ZP.
At least we have lots of great kibble options available here though! Lola has tummy issues too, she does the best on duck formulas (free game bird Fromm) and I don't remember if it is go! Or now! But they make a grain free small breed kibble that she did great on too. Just FYI. Let us know wht you pick love!
Start off very slowly. Mix in the pumpkin and probiotics. Lots of small meals (3-4) would be better than 2 big meals. Try it for a week before you change anything. In other words try it for at least a week before deciding its not working.
2 of my chis are doing great on ziwipeak. My 3rd one used to be fine eating it and then she started having diarrhea, losing weight and fur. It was so stressful to see her like that. I put her on THK zeal, embark and some cooked meat. She is doing very well and is on her way to her usual self again. I think ziwipeak is too rich for her but my other chis have never looked better. Every dog is different. I hope you find the right food for Toby soon.
We started Fromm today. I waited until after my final yesterday in case he got sick from it so I wouldn't be up all night with him right before a final. Now I have until Tuesday before my next final for him to hopefully adjust. He had 1/8 cup of Fromm mixed with some chicken and rice for both breakfast and dinner. And we had solid poo. Not that it means much, I've gotta give it at least a week to see how it works. Just wanted to provide an update!
Thank you. I have another on Tuesday then on Thursday, then I'm done! We are one of the last law schools in the country to finish finals. And I won't know my grades until mid- January so quite a long wait, unfortunately.
Since its so close to Christmas and my mom wants me home ASAP she paid for me and Toby to fly home!! So Toby will be going on an airplane for the first time. I told him if his neurotic chi cousin Rocky can do it he can too!
How wonderful not to have to drive. It does seem very late for finals. When do you go back? Students are back on January 14th here. I have to go back the 4th.
We started finals at the same time as the undergrad per university policy. However, unlike the undergrad we have two weeks of exams, making us run a week later.
I'm so happy not to have to drive! By myself with Toby I can't drive straight through. So it's a nearly two day affair. And I am so physically and mentally exhausted from the finals I've had so far I can only imagine what I will feel like next week. She even got me a car service to take me to and from Charlotte (I have to go to Charlotte, the airport in Greensboro doesn't have any flights to my local airport). It will be much more relaxing- even though I have to go through security 4 days before Christmas with a dog!
So it's been a few days without any diarrhea. His stools haven't been firm (they are formed, but a tad mushy) and they are 3-4x a day, but that is to be expected when transitioning to kibble. But the gas is gone and he is definitely not as uncomfortable as he was!
He's slept through the night for the past three nights since we started Fromm, which is so nice for the both of us. Poor thing is exhausted. He was so uncomfortable before that I don't think he ever got good sleep. He slept all day yesterday and didn't even want to take a long walk- just potty breaks. Not like him.
Hopefully in a few more days he will be completely back to normal.
My question is this (it may be tmi, but so is this whole thread, lol): for those of you that feed kibble, how often do your dogs poo? I'm used to Toby going 1-2x a day on ZP so I just wanna know what to expect.
Thanks for all the support! I will continue to update this thread with his progress until he is 100% better!
My dogs are fed kibble (NOW) and they go twice a day most of the time.
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