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Old 07-25-2010, 02:09 AM
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Honey will certainly harm a human baby, so your vet may have confused that. Vets are given VERY little training in nutrition, so many of them have some strange ideas. I've never known honey to harm dogs and know many who use it on a regular basis.
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This works for Max! He will not sit in the soak but he allows the warm wet cloth to be pressed on his bottom.

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Epsom salts. It is said that soaking your dog’s butt with Epsom salts water will help liquefy the fluid in the anal sacs so that it will flows more easily. It also reduce swelling, relaxes muscles and among many other benefits. If your dog is not willing to rest his butt in a tub filled with two inches height of water for 10 minutes twice daily, then you may have to bring Epsom salt to his rear by using hand towel. First, pour a tablespoon of Epsom salt into a small basin filled with 1 liter of lukewarm water. Let the salt dissolved before soaking the hand towel. Wring it lightly and cup it to your dog’s rear for 10 minutes, twice daily. Thrice daily, if it is a severe anal sac problem.
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That all sounds good, but my vet warned about using honey in puppies. He said to use Karo Syrup instead, because honey can cause botulism and other problems.

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This is TRUE!! It is a well-known fact NOT to give honey to an infant until they are 1 year old, so a puppy should not have honey. I don't know when a dog can start having honey, so ask vet before you give honey!!
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Im not sure I see the correlation between a human infant and a puppy. Dogs are not humans, just because a baby cant have honey in no way means that a puppy cant have honey.
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Im not sure I see the correlation between a human infant and a puppy. Dogs are not humans, just because a baby cant have honey in no way means that a puppy cant have honey.
Great thread Ciarra!

I'm not a vet & I've never heard that puppies can't have honey, but I do know the dogs are subject to all the diseases, colds & sickness that we get. I just makes sense that if an infant child has not built up an immunity to honey until they are 1, they are prone to bochlarism. Logically thinking, a puppy who is undergoing vaccinations to help prevent disease & illness as well hasn't built up a strong immune system & might also be able to contract bochlarism (however it's spelled). If you want to chance your Chis life on something that can be prevented by just giving Karo, that's up to you, but I strongly agree with this post & my Chi is too important to me to chance.
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I'm not a vet & I've never heard that puppies can't have honey, but I do know the dogs are subject to all the diseases, colds & sickness that we get. I just makes sense that if an infant child has not built up an immunity to honey until they are 1, they are prone to bochlarism. Logically thinking, a puppy who is undergoing vaccinations to help prevent disease & illness as well hasn't built up a strong immune system & might also be able to contract bochlarism (however it's spelled). If you want to chance your Chis life on something that can be prevented by just giving Karo, that's up to you, but I strongly agree with this post & my Chi is too important to me to chance.
I would have to argue that that is actually the opposite of logical thinking. A human baby can have chocolate, so therefore puppies can have chocolate? Of course not. You are making a comparison between two different species, and that is quite illogical.
I have no idea whether you can give a dog or a puppy honey, nor have I ever needed to. I wasnt making an argument on that either way, I was simply pointing out that it is ridiculous to state that because a baby can or cant have something it means anything in respect to dogs.
Before I give anything meant for humans to my dog, I call my vet to check that its okay and what dosage is appropriate. I dont appreciate your accusation that I care about my dogs any less than you do.
Additionally, dogs cannot catch colds from humans. They do not get the same kind of cold we do.
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I would have to argue that that is actually the opposite of logical thinking. A human baby can have chocolate, so therefore puppies can have chocolate? Of course not. You are making a comparison between two different species, and that is quite illogical.
I have no idea whether you can give a dog or a puppy honey, nor have I ever needed to. I wasnt making an argument on that either way, I was simply pointing out that it is ridiculous to state that because a baby can or cant have something it means anything in respect to dogs.
Before I give anything meant for humans to my dog, I call my vet to check that its okay and what dosage is appropriate. I dont appreciate your accusation that I care about my dogs any less than you do.
Additionally, dogs cannot catch colds from humans. They do not get the same kind of cold we do.
I'm not trying to argue with you & I by no means made any accusations that you don't care about your dogs. I was merely stating my opinion. I can see your point of view with the chocolate & that does make sense to me. I disagree that a dog can't catch a cold from us, but again that's just my opinion. I didn't mean to upset you & I don't want to argue with anyone. If you can't voice your opinion with insulting or hurting someone, maybe this forum isn't for me.
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I have worked for a vet for 20 years who is also my father, we always recommend either honey or karo syrup for 'sugar' emergencies for puppies. Never seen a case of Botulism in a puppy that has been fed Honey. Zoey got honey a lot when she was a puppy, she doesn't nor hasn't ever had botulism.
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