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Old 12-25-2012, 05:38 PM
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I have NEVER had my girls spayed during a C Section! You stop her hormones and she may not tend to her babies. I have always waited til pups were weaned for the spay. I had a C Section on Christmas Day 5 yrs ago, at 2pm Worked out great, had 2 vets working on her. Was about $400.

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I think this is why the vet is wanting her deliver naturally,but mother nature can be so cruel and I don't want her to loose a puppy when their was something I could do!10 minutes to the vet if the pup is still inside her but with a broken sack is no good!
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Its natural for her to break the sac as the baby is coming out, if this happens, and the baby doesnt come in an hour or so, then you go to the vet and if he cant get it out, he does a C Section. They need to go into labor first, then go with the flow.
My first chi was a retired breeder. She lost her second litter due to scheduling a c section. they opened her up and the puppies were not ready to be born and they died. The breeder thought she would save trouble and time I guess by doing it before labor, but her calculations of the breeding were not right and the babies were too premi to live. Let her go into labor first!
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Its natural for her to break the sac as the baby is coming out, if this happens, and the baby doesnt come in an hour or so, then you go to the vet and if he cant get it out, he does a C Section. They need to go into labor first, then go with the flow.
My first chi was a retired breeder. She lost her second litter due to scheduling a c section. they opened her up and the puppies were not ready to be born and they died. The breeder thought she would save trouble and time I guess by doing it before labor, but her calculations of the breeding were not right and the babies were too premi to live. Let her go into labor first!
Ok, so if she breaks the sac and the puppy dose not come in 1 hours the puppy can live inside her till she pushes it out or I get to a vet? SO The puppy can live with out the sac while stuck inside her if pup is breach for 1 hours?
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yes, about half all puppie born are breach. Mine were. But I raise POODLEs , not chihuahuas. But I really dont see the difference in a chi giving birth or a poodle, just that your chi is tiny and should not have been bred. I groom a tiny little yorkie and they bred her to a bigger male ( I would not have) I just knew that little girl would have to have a c section. NOPE, she had 3 just fine. Her owners were scared to death, and had her spayed after the babies were weaned. They were calling me all day and half the night.
Once you see the sac, or part of the puppy, and she is pushing, and after about an hour and its not coming yet, then you can worry. Once they start coming out, I take a dry wash cloth, or paper towel and wrap it around the body and start helping her , just tug gently. The reason for the cloth is they are very slick and I cant hold on to them without it.
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My chi delivered her last 2 litters of 3 breach with no problems she is 5lbs. This was a few years ago but none the less. I also had a labour that lasted literally 27 hours I called the emergency vet the entire night but they all finally came out. I think you need to calm down and just wait until it happens now you're educated somewhat from research you'll know what to do when the time comes. Take a deep breath and just keep an eye on cupcake since you're not sure when it's coming the most obvious sign will be the crying panting and nesting
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Thanks everyone for the prays and great advice <3 Lil cupcake is still with pups.Her temp has bounced around allot?My notes so far keeping a log staying calm>>
6:30 pm 100.5 24th day 55/56?
8:30 am 98.6 25th 56/57?
10:30am 98.8 25th 56/57?
11:00pm 100.6 25th nesting with backing bottom up with hard pressure to me (3 times?)and diamond leg positioning on back,Good heart beats on pups lower placement of pups!
10:30am 98.6 26th 57/58 lower placement of pup/back less arched/good heart rate on pups and cupcake.
6:03pm 98.6 26th 57/58?

Christmas eve night around 11-12 she started acting VERY fidgity and uncomfortable waking me up all night with kicks and head rubs to my face and licks to my nose and pawing at my face for belly rubs?
Last night Christmas night at 11:00 pm She was Very uncomfortable(never whining or crying,screaming,just squinty eyes,and some long sighs which means she dose not feel good?)She has never been the kinda chihuahua that's very whinny, shaky, yappie,she is a tough lil cupake. She only lets out hard,belting barks only at night when I first let her out she is scared of the dark<3.
Last night She Started to nest in her whelping box and decided to pull her blankie out and lay it on me?I thought we were gonna have the pups right on my lap with the way she was acting with her favorite blankie! Allot of deep breaths,rolling around, and then She would not let me stop rubbing her belly at all.She propped her self up on my legs and chest (like a baby)sitting on her bottom while lying her back against my stomach and bowed her back legs out in the diamond position As,if she was trying to open her birthing canal? right?She kept pawing at my hands to not stop rubbing her lil belly so I didn't for an hour alternating hands until. She has not allot of belly hair left .Poor baby girl.After she was happy with all the belly rubs.She went for some water and then she backed her rear end up to me several times (3 times)HARD while breathing/sighing loud?Then went back to not letting me stop belly rubbing and passed out hard to sleep?We have been up for going on two night now.With small naps.She mostly sleeping during the day while I try to stay awake.When she naps I have to nap.If she is awake while I'm trying to nap she wont let me sleep?She starts pawing at me and licking my face and nose.She will lick right up my nose?Clearing my airway practice maybe?She has always licked my face and cuddled me with her little head but never so obsessed with licking my nose inside Like I cant get away from her if i move my head she just persist and she will surprise me with it too?ALSO when I woke up this morning she looked so different in her spine,like she lost weight?Her spine is less arched now.I had to use my moms littmann stethoscope the back side(the little side)to make sure she still even had pups!As,the day has gone on They still are moving around but not as much and are lower now with good heart beats?I have not noticed any water breaking discharge or anything,but the vet says its almost impossible to spot her water breaking?

Is she trying to hold the pups in I'm wondering now?Has she tried starting labor,but cant push the pups out like the DR swears she can?He said the pups heads can pass her hips.

what did the backing her rear end to me Hard mean?Like all her force she was putting into applying pressure to her back end she had backed up to me?

Is this normal anyone else seen this before or had it happen to their pregnant chihuahua?

If the pups are in the birthing canal Would I still be able to see them move?
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Her first temp drop has been longer than 24 hours now?
Walking in and out of whelping box and pulling blankies out on my LAP!
Restless at night likes stretching out on her side and belly?
dose not want me out of her sight even while sleeping?
Ate today small meal nibbled here and their about a quarter of what she normally eats and pooed outside(she is completely house broken )?
NOT SHACKING OR WHIMPERING NO VOMITING at all just some long sighs as if to be uncomfortable??
vulva seems to look the same.
Her back is not Arched as much as it was and pups seem lower closer to her vulva puffier lower belly?

Vet told me it could be any day night or another week as she is lactating??
Her actions last night I would think means this is first stage of labor?
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Gosh I wish I could help you, I know nothing about birthing babies. This is such a worry and yet exciting. I have been thinking about her and you all day. Thanks for posting.
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