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Old 05-18-2017, 08:35 PM
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I agree with Susan, why not let her sleep in your room at night? Chihuahuas are companion dogs and naturally love being close to their humans. I'm not saying that they can't ever learn to sleep in another room of course, but being by our side is essentially what they were bred for and so they're generally happier that way. I don't think it would necessarily make her separation anxiety in other situations worse. For example my chis don't have separation anxiety when we're not home (I have left a camera to check lol), but if they knew we were in another room and had to sleep alone away from us, they'd be inconsolable.

As for her needing to be in a crate so she doesn't roam and pee/poop on the floor at night. Why not close the door or have a dog/baby gate so she can't leave the room? You could put a pee pad down and teach her to use it.

But either way, in my experience it's more effective to work on separation anxiety gradually with positive reinforcement. Especially in bad cases. So for example, instead of leaving her in another room and waiting/hoping for her to become ok with it, you could try this method:

1) Leave the room for 5 minutes and then come back in and praise her + give her a treat (but only once she's calmed down, ignore her/avoid eye contact until she does).
2) Leave the room again and repeat the process several times in a row.
3) As she gets comfortable with the 'game' and knowing that you're going to come back in the room, she'll start calming down and associate the whole thing with getting a treat. At this point, wait for her to be calm before going back in the room. Praise and give a treat.
4) Then extend how long you're gone out of the room little by little.

I had to do that with my first chi. She had really bad separation anxiety whenever we weren't home and it worked really well. I know it may seem time consuming, but it works.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:16 PM
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everytime you go to check on her... she thinks she is being rewarded by 'screaming'.... I had a dog that would scratch my door frame to much it was shredded...the VET asked if I petted him and talked to him before leaving and when I said yes, I would do those things and hug him... he told me to just walk out of the house and not do those things... That was hard to do but after awhile he stopped.... have you tried NOT talking to her, petting her while she is creating chaos? I dont mean this to be mean, just trying to help
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For me, one of the joys of having dogs is sleeping with them. I slept with my babies, too. When it's harmless (for me anyway), I take the path of least resistence.

I figure dogs and babies are stone age creatures and are used to sleeping in touch with another critter. Separation is scary. The dogs don't outgrow it, but the babies do.

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I'm going to say something that may make you upset---I'm trying to tell you in a nice way, to rehome this dog. You have not got the time for a dog with this problem. Would the shelter/rescue take her back. I think you rescued her, right? She needs someone with a lot of time to work on her separation anxiety. I know your son will be upset, but if you tell him that the dog is very unhappy, maybe it would help him understand. I would not be telling you this if I didn't think you had done most everything you could. She needs someone that can give her much more time than you can with your business going.
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I'm going to say something that may make you upset---I'm trying to tell you in a nice way, to rehome this dog. You have not got the time for a dog with this problem. Would the shelter/rescue take her back. I think you rescued her, right? She needs someone with a lot of time to work on her separation anxiety. I know your son will be upset, but if you tell him that the dog is very unhappy, maybe it would help him understand. I would not be telling you this if I didn't think you had done most everything you could. She needs someone that can give her much more time than you can with your business going.
I completely agree with Susan's comments. I tried to say this nicely in response to a previous post about the issues you have with this dog. Companion animals, which the chihuahua and most toy breeds are, require a larger time and attention commitment than other breeds. Your lifestyle situation does not appear to lend itself to providing that degree of commitment. You are unhappy and I assure you the dog is unhappy as well.
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If you really want to try all options, I would look at medication. I used it on my last dog when he lost his hearing and gained anxiety as a result. He was much happier!

If you do rehome her, look at your adoption contract. It probably requires you to return the dog to the rescue, but it never hurts to have someone lined up that might be interested in her.

If you still want a dog, I would suggest you look into retired racing greyhounds. Most of them are crate trained (so easy to housetrain) and not at all clingy. They are large, but don't have great exercise needs. They are happy to sleep all day with a couple walks a day. Tell the rescue group what your needs for a dog are, and they can help you.
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I agree with Susan, why not let her sleep in your room at night? Chihuahuas are companion dogs and naturally love being close to their humans. I'm not saying that they can't ever learn to sleep in another room of course, but being by our side is essentially what they were bred for and so they're generally happier that way. I don't think it would necessarily make her separation anxiety in other situations worse. For example my chis don't have separation anxiety when we're not home (I have left a camera to check lol), but if they knew we were in another room and had to sleep alone away from us, they'd be inconsolable.

As for her needing to be in a crate so she doesn't roam and pee/poop on the floor at night. Why not close the door or have a dog/baby gate so she can't leave the room? You could put a pee pad down and teach her to use it.

But either way, in my experience it's more effective to work on separation anxiety gradually with positive reinforcement. Especially in bad cases. So for example, instead of leaving her in another room and waiting/hoping for her to become ok with it, you could try this method:

1) Leave the room for 5 minutes and then come back in and praise her + give her a treat (but only once she's calmed down, ignore her/avoid eye contact until she does).
2) Leave the room again and repeat the process several times in a row.
3) As she gets comfortable with the 'game' and knowing that you're going to come back in the room, she'll start calming down and associate the whole thing with getting a treat. At this point, wait for her to be calm before going back in the room. Praise and give a treat.
4) Then extend how long you're gone out of the room little by little.

I had to do that with my first chi. She had really bad separation anxiety whenever we weren't home and it worked really well. I know it may seem time consuming, but it works.

Hi coco_little_bear

Her sleeping in my room just isn't something I prefer, it's not me not wanting to be close to her, I don't mind having her near my room just not in it. Also, I didn't put her down in the office hoping it would change, I wasn't getting any sleep and I had to do something because I had been grasping at straws. I had no plan to leave her sleeping down there because I would rather her be upstairs (or even my son's room).

I will say the past Wed and Thurs night I took her blanket and pillow out of her crate, put it on the floor (still in my office) and put a t-shirt I had worn for her to lay on and she did a total 180. She whimpered for about 5min, I went down and and knock on the door (not loud or anything), she stopped and she was quiet the rest of the night.

Yesterday, her playpen arrived and I put her in it (moved her back upstairs) last night outside of my room (the little walkway between my room and living-room) like before and she whimpered a little, I told her a firm no (didn't get up or anything) she settled down and was quiet the res of the night. She did get out of the playpen though (it's nylon and mesh) because I didn't zip the top on didn't want her to feel so restricted like in her crate. But she climbed out, I got up put her back in, she didn't cry or anything, was good until this morning.

I did the whole leave the room for 5min then come back when I first adopted her and she ways in my office (not in her crate) but she still ended up peeing and pooping in there (when left out during the day), that is why she started staying in her crate when we left. I don't know if she is regressing in behavior (if that's possible) but something is going on.
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I am glad she is doing better! It sounds like there is a certain period of adjustment for her that is really hard on you, but she gets over it and things are smoother again. Does this sound accurate? Maybe if you can identify this as a pattern, you can keep your sanity a little better knowing there will be an end soon!
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