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Old 11-11-2008, 06:12 PM
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HI Guys,

I have a situation that I wanted to see if anyone could help me out with. I have 3 chi's (6,5,and 3) My oldest about a year ago, one day starting having diarrhea. Basically it was so bad that I would come home, and the kitchen would look like someone had been killed, blood every where- and poo (like a gelatiny substance) would be everywhere. So I take her to the vets- I tell him, OBVIOUSLY something is wrong. He gives her SD W/D food- and of course she WILL NOT eat it. He also gives her flaggisol? or something spelled like that. NOthing works, he basically tells me,the reason for the blood is the inflammation- and that the medicine with diet should work. It doesn't, I make her rice, then chicken and rice with some greenbeans and carrots- and she finally eats. LONG STORY SHORT......I take her back 4 times because nothing is working.

A year later she is still sick. But now the only difference is she acts and eats totally fine. I have obviously run out of the medication- but im not kidding when I say that I can't remember the last time she had a solid poo. When I get up in the morning, her kennel which I put the potty papers in, are covered. I am incredibly desperate because I know she is suffering inside- how could you not? BUT I do not want to continue to have her on this medication which does nothing.

Does anyone have any experience with this? or knowledge of a more natural remedy/approach/food/something to maybe help her. I just want her to be healthy again

Thank you guys for any help you can give me!

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Here are some quick and easy things that you can start to do at home that could help your girl:
Get Innova Evo as her dog food (Allergy to grains is one of the most common reasons IBS is diagnosed or should I say mis-diagnosed).
Switch all dog drinking water to natural spring water.
Add pro and pre-biotics to her diet (you can get these in many yogurts now 1-3 teaspoons daily should do).
Reduce stressers for her as much as possible as IBS can be stress related.

You can look into additional supplements such as:

Milk Thistle to help promote liver function
L-Glutamine can help rebuild inflammed intestinal walls
There are some clays (bentonite or montmorillonite) that can absorb toxins which can irritate the GI tract.
Could look into a probiotic supplement instead of the yogurt (some contain digestive enzymes).

Now about IBS

IBS in dogs can be caused by several things as the symptoms of IBS are also symptoms of other problems and since this has gone on so long and treatment thus far hasn't cured it - it might be good to look into some of these:

Inflammation in the GI tract.
Bacterial infection of the GI tract.
Overgrowth of GI bacteria.
Fungal disease of the GI tract.
Parasite infestation.
Symptom of cancer in the GI tract - (mainly Lymphosarcoma).
Inflammatory bowel disease (IBD).

I would suggest you take your girl in and get the following done:
Complete blood count (CBC)
Biochemical profile (organ function blood panel)
Urinalysis
Fecal tests for parasites, protozoa and bacteria
Fecal cytology (look for evidence of inflammatory cells which could mean IBD)
Tests for bacterial overgrowth in the intestine
Abdominal ultrasound
Endoscopy and intestinal biopsy

These added precautions/screenings will give you a very good idea of where your girl stands internally. You will be ruling out the major medical causes for IBS which will lead you to treatment or food allergy.
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:38 PM
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I switched Zero to Orijen and it stopped his stomach problems, he used to get incredibly ill and pass the entirity of his stomach lining once a week, he has ulcerative colitis which sounds exactly the same as what you've just discribed, I would get your vet to carry out some medical tests.

Also pro-biotics pastes work wonders we use pro-kolin you can get it from your vet usually or possibly something similar, which is more affective than yogurt with major attacks.

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I agree with Sarah, definately try probiotics, I too have used Pro-kolin, you don't need to see a vet, in the UK to buy it, it's available online, not sure about elsewhere. Or you can walk into vet surgery and ask for it.

One vet we saw was talking about, blood tests, scans and heaven knows what as we couldn't get to the bottom of our dogs colitis. Pro-kolin sorted it within days as well as a "sensitive" diet food.

My late Honey was allergic to chicken and it would kick of a nasty tummy bout if given, so don't presume chicken is okay. Honey was fine with lamb dog food.

Hope you can get to your little one sorted. Have you considered seeing a holistic/homeopathic vet?
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So here is an update. First I have to thank you all- because the info I have received here has been much better than my vet(not saying anything bad about him) but seriously, it costs so much money, and while I pretty much don't ever even question it- there has got to be some other route besides spending a ton of cash.

So basically I took Orchard Lanes info- on IBD---I did a bunch of research on that, and figured, yes- this is her to a T. I had found a site that explained dog IBD and what test to get done, all of them I have already had done, and well they came back the way the site said they would.

So I the first thing I did was get the pro-biotics, and I mixed it with a little activa and pure pumpkin (I had read that it helps bulk things up) and every morning for a week I would feed her that. It's been about 5 days and it is SO much better. I went to a boutique today and purchased the EVO small bites, and so now I will switch her over to that. So I will see how that goes, hopefully things will continue to get better.

It's amazing how after all the tests and money, sometimes these vets come back and say, Oh well- it is what it is, here is some medication. With a little research and asking you all, my Olive is feeling MUCH better, and I don't dread coming home to a mess everyday! If you all have any other tips- please let me know.

But thank you all so much for the info you have given me so far!!!!
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