I didn't know what to title this thread or to put it in the new health sections it's going to be long winded but I would really like some info on this!

My friend has a 5 1/2 month old chi puppy, he's badly bred and the 'breeders are suspect' anyway night before last he was bouncing around all over the place like he does on and off the sofa (her sofa is really low btw lower than an average height) anyway she was out the room and her friend was in with her boy and she heard ab almighty scream he had jumped off the sofa ad was screaming his head off!!!

Anyway he got to the vets turns out his leg is shattered above the knee cap not broken but shattered to pieces he's been sent to an orthopaedic surgeon today for plates abd pins to e put in his leg.

Anyway she asked the vet how this much damage could happen from a small fall (no foul play btw!) and the vet said he's only ever seen such damage on one dog before which was his yorkie who was from a similar background! He said it could be some sort of bone deficiency/weakness or something who knows!!

Anyway she found out from the stupid breeder that they took mum away I.e totally weaned te pups at like 4/5 weeks and mum was shoved back outside in the kennels with tw rest of her breedig stock. Now I know this is disgusting and wrong and behavioural problems can happen (this dog has severe separation anxiety and still isn't toilet trained) but I wondered because they weren't feeding off mum ad were given crap and I mean crap food (lowest of the low) could their bones not have developed properly because of a calcium deficiency or something??

She knows one other of the litter has had a different problem as her friend took one of the litter.

That is disgusting and the owners should be reported to the RSPCA treating puppies this way.Just after quick money "scum"

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Thank you Jan

Breeders like this should be shut down but unfortunately they aren't would just be interesting to know if it can cause problems other than behavioural

i was told by my vet to have the pups fully weaned and off honey at 6 weeks so she can build herself up again they still want milk from her and chase her around the place but it must be sore for her cause you can tell she dosent really want too but gives in for an easy life in fact when i came down this morning she was sleeping just outside the pen the pups can still see her but not get her so i will just let her do what she wants i always put her in with them at bedtime but its up too her if she wants to stay in with them now they are on royal canin just now and eating it without soaking it and driking water so they should be fine but omg those little teeth are like needles poor honey

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Merry Christmas Chi Friends x

I think 4 weeks is too young but I don't know if it would cause problems with bone development

I agree it should be up to the mum to decide they'll soon let the pups know!

That is unreal, poor wee puppy!
I think the pup should have stayed with mum longer too.
Defo just out to make money, scumbags!!
I dont know about the behaviour, but to me if taken away too soon, then the pups dont learn any manners from the mummy such as biting etc...
Mum and litter mates show pups what not to do.
Plus the pup will defo have seperation anxiety aswell.
Some folk think that helps to get them independant but mostly that backfires big time!!
Oh yeah and the crap food wont have helped one bit either!
Makes me sick!!

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When I was raising Westies, we kept them with the mom until they were about 6-8 weeks, during the 6-8 weeks they learn a lot from their siblings and mom. I usually would try to wean them onto a gruel/puppy food around 3-4 weeks old but they still had the option to nurse. I usually didn't place them in new homes till about 9-10 weeks old. We have a client who just got a 4 week old Chi mix and it just made me sick, she has had to bottle feed the pup and has had lots of problems with hypoglycemia. The breeder was sick of the puppies pooping all over.

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Sick of puppy poop? Then why breed?? Ughhhhhh thats awful.

I cant speak for dogs, but with the kittens they start weaning around 5 weeks old, but stay with momma cat til 8 weeks at least.

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