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Old 07-21-2011, 01:47 PM
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Ok, heres my story...
We really struggled to house train our other dog from a puppy, we tried various methods but she seemed to defy them all, esp the 'puppies wont mess near where they sleep' idea...
We bought her a crate and she literally 'messed' herself everyday, id have to bath her and clean the crate...horrible job. (there wasnt anything medically wrong either)
So we turned to the puppy pads which she caught onto, as she got older we trained her to bark at the back door and she was housetrained...although, we got her spayed at 6 months (before her 1st season) I believe doing so is a risk to incontinence and I believe perhaps this made things worse as she never to this day managed to hold her wee for long when we 'weren’t' there and we were also told this could be attention seeking.
When she was older we picked up with crate training again and this time it worked whilst we weren’t around and she learnt to hold it (the majority of the time anyway, she still sometimes had accidents!)
Now we tried everything with her, letting her out every 20 mins, etc etc she certainly had a good routine but still we couldnt leave her for long and return to a mess free house she just sometimes wouldnt wait.
I remembered when we went to collect her from the breeder the puppies were in like a 'pen' seperate from the mother and now I wonder if the breeder kept the puppies like that for some time she probably never got chance to learn to be clean off her mother?

So when we got Pixie we were a little disheartened when we read Chihuahuas are quite difficult to train? And I admit we havent been as enthusiastic with Pixie recently (8 motnhs) probably due to our exuberated experience we're almost giving up thinking we're failures! But I need to sort this..

We tried to puppy pad train Pixie, although I found this really difficult to re-position her onto a pad as opposed to bigger dogs as her wee's were so short she'd stop and I wouldnt get chance to praise her on the pad!
She didnt seem to pick up anything from our other dog barking at the door and weeing outside either.
Pixie is crated at night although I have noticed she wont hold it and WILL wee in her bed. So Ive recently started leaving the crate door open and the indoor potty out (in her own room not ours), Ive noticed she doesnt go at all UNTIL we are up/awake??? Why does she wait for me to be up to go to the toilet (on the carpet)?

Im also still having great difficulty spotting her going to the toilet inside the house, shes so quiet I turn around and its on the floor within a split second...(I never shout at her etc) so I cant practice the reinforcement!
With other dogs they do seem to have a pattern - ie after playing or after food they want to go to the toilet, Pixie 100% doesnt.. I cant predict it, and she doesnt seem to go 'that often'!? I can put her outside hoping she will then I can praise her but she just doesnt no matter how long I stand there, as I say she doesnt go that often?

The only time I can guarantee she'll wee is when we greet her, so now we have to practically ignore her to avoid her weeing whilst she jumps around (poor thing!)

Im not getting angry about it as the accidents are so small but I need to get to grips with why Ive had 2 dogs that ive failed to housetrain yet out of the people I know with dogs, Ive put in the most effort. (& funnily enough I had a dog when I was a child and my parents failed to house train her properly either, a Cocker Spaniel!)
When we collected Pixie from her breeder I noticed she was sleeping with her mum in a GIANT crate (probably the largest sized crate you can imagine!) and she was weeing in there in front of us, again this probably didnt help her learn to be clean if she was allowed to do this from the start, even her dad wee'd in her bed!

Ive had foster dogs and can manage to train my dogs to be well behaved etc but house training must be my weakness!
Any help other than the usual, or if anyone else has similar experiences with their Chi's toilet habits - most welcome

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Old 07-21-2011, 09:59 PM
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Sorry, that must be so frustraating. My dogs are trained only in the dog room with the dog door to the outside, the second they get on carpt, most of them will pee or poo. Is it possible to leash her to you, that way you will be aware where she is at all times and she won't be able to sneak off and potty. When she squats, you say loudly "NO!", pick her up and take her outside for 5 minutes. Even if she doesn't pee in those 5 minutes, bring her in and repeat. I think with you not reprimanding her at all when she potties in the house, she has no idea it's wrong. Good luck and I hope this works. Also in the morning before I pee, I take all the dogs outside first. This has really cut down on the accidents in my room, though I do have a couple of pee pads down and they use them during the night.
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:39 PM
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Oh, yeah, I can identify! Although not a Chihuahua, I am trying to re-train my granddaughter's 4-year-old Yorkie, Samantha, who did well as a young dog, but has been moved three times in less than three years and her potty training went by the wayside big time. She doesn't give any signals and is very quick, so it's almost impossible to catch her. She's been with me going on three months now and we are making some progress. She would potty in her bed, on the couch, on the carpet, on her favorite blanket, anywhere. I keep her confined closely when I can't be right with her and watch her. I try to set her up for success, small area with potty pad until she uses it, then more freedom. She has caught on and knows when she uses the potty pad she gets a great treat and gets to be loose with me and the other dogs. She is doing well, but it has been very frustrating. Have to praise, praise, praise good things and ignore bad things. Patience and persistence are the watchwords with potty training. Some days I didn't get to praise her even once, just had to hang in there and try to catch her in the act while keeping her confined. Had to be consistent and tell her gently "no, no," pick her up and put her on her potty pad and then tell her "good girl" just for being there. I have to be very gentle with Samantha. She is easily intimidated. Now she will go to her potty pad most of the time even when loose in the house, but I don't let her loose for very long and never when I can't watch her.

I've potty trained lots of puppies very successfully, but have never tackled a grown dog. We are making progress and I believe it can be done, but it doesn't happen quickly or easily.

Good luck with your furkids. I hope you have great success eventually!
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It's sort of reassuring to read this! We've had problems with both our chis, though it doesn't seem as bad now as the early days, but can still be so frustrating. They are crated at night, and Honey (she's 15mths now) never messes in her crate, but Gary (10 mths) will occasionally. Our carpet is minging, and we just bought a carpet cleaner, we always have a puppy pad out, which is used a lot, but accidents - that seem more like laziness than accident - still happen.

Last week, me and hubby were sitting at the dining rom table playing a game, and Gary came and cocked his leg, weeing over hubbys slippers.... he wasn't best pleased, specially as the kitten then ran up his leg with his claws out... ouch, but very funny from where I was
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:49 PM
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So relieved to know others have suffered the same!

As some of you will know we've 'just' got a new puppy Chi (9 weeks old) and we have got her housetrained in just a couple of days!!
Shes going straight to her indoor potty or pads, phew finally one of our dogs is housetrained!

But it makes me wonder - why has she understood yet Pixie and our EBT generally dont when we're doing the same training?
I just hope Pixie will catch on too, in the meantime ive just got to stalk her around the house to hope to catch her doing it first!
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Old 07-27-2011, 05:19 PM
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My puppies trained to the pad very easy...then they hit their 'teens', 5 to 7 months, and their training went out the window. Billy and Pepper are fully house trained, after the bobble in their teens, but Smoke is another story, he will pee in the house on the carpet. I have no idea why house breaking worked for two and not for all three. All my other dogs I got older and only Lexxi is house trained from all of them, the others are still works in progress.
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Old 07-28-2011, 01:31 AM
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Wow, I feel pretty fortunate after reading these posts!

I had always heard Chihuahuas (in general) were difficult to housetrain. Everyone thought I was insane when I agreed to take on a 5 month old rescue that was an owner surrender for this very reason.

I had her housetrained in 2 weeks time. I've often wondered if sometimes we start too early with them? Before they are actually mature enough to control themselves and understand fully what we expect from them?
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:57 AM
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hi i was luckey with my buster hes 11 months hes always gone outside snice hes been trained took maybe 2 months then last week i saw him go up to a wall corner and lift his leg i screamed he stopped and i put him outside i dont have a clue on that one
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