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Old 11-27-2012, 01:12 AM

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I have a vet I really like. My cat sees him, my previous cat saw him and now Lady and Prince. I took Prince in today for a baseline exam for his pet insurance. I was asked what I feed him. I said Ziwipeak. Vet then asks what that is. After my description he basically down talked the whole raw thing. His complaints were it is hard to get the right balance (ZP handles that for you I said). The vet then said many holistic foods aren't monitored by the AAFCO. I said it says on the ZP website that the food is monitored by the AAFCO. The vet asked if it was clinically tested and this one stumped me. Is ZP a clinically tested dog food? I couldn't find the answer on the website so I am guessing no. If it isn't how important is it that the food is clinically tested?

The vet was also concerned that raw diets are unsafe for the same reasons that humans wouldn't eat raw food (bacteria) and that pet can potentially pass this to human through contact (licking a human after a meal or possibly by handling feces). Needless to say my vet is not a fan of raw diets. Funny, I just got a sample bag of the cat formula for kitty! The dogs have done great on it, nice shiny coats, no stink poo, typically once a day firm poos etc! It kind of hurts when a vet you like totally disagrees.
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Vets know less than us about nutrition. He seems uninformed as many vets are. He should have an open mind about it. Maybe do some research and bring it to him. He seems quite close minded.


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Certain that you saw this on their site:
Every batch of product produced at ZiwiPeak must meet our thorough and stringent in-house specifications and is not released for sale if these specifications are not met.

Water activity, used to control microbial growth, is the critical control point for our New Zealand Food Safety Authority (NZFSA) approved Risk Management Programme. This Programme is based on a Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points (HACCP) plan. Samples from all our batches are taken from the production area and tested to ensure water activity values are within a specified range for food quality and safety.

Further to this, we conduct Laboratory Testing in New Zealand on all our production on a weekly basis to comply with stringent EU regulations and to meet our own strict in-house requirements.

Tests conducted are for:

Salmonella
Enterobacteriaceae
APC
Yeasts and Moulds

There are strict limits imposed for these tests, and NZFSA maintain an overview of the results..

We also test on a random basis for: Ethoxyquin, BHT and BHA & Propylene Glycol

Results for these 4 tests have been negative to date, as expected.


One of our Vets is perplexed by our nutrition and immunization choices and has actually said to me, "You know much more about Chihuahua nutrition than I do." He is a great doctor but he shrugs a lot about our choices. I am okay with that because I research to bits and no one cares more for our girls and their health than us. Even our Vet.

Hope sees a holistic Vet (who was a traditional Vet for 30 years). Her practice is now limited to Chinese herbal medicine, chiropractic and acupuncture. She believes in more immunizations then I do but she is a HUGE fan of our food (ZP) and how we supplement.
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Vets know less than us about nutrition. He seems uninformed as many vets are. He should have an open mind about it. Maybe do some research and bring it to him. He seems quite close minded.


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I agree closed minded. I think I will take him some info about it. I am not compelled to take the pups off it.
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Certain that you saw this on their site:
Every batch of product produced at ZiwiPeak must meet our thorough and stringent in-house specifications and is not released for sale if these specifications are not met.

Water activity, used to control microbial growth, is the critical control point for our New Zealand Food Safety Authority (NZFSA) approved Risk Management Programme. This Programme is based on a Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points (HACCP) plan. Samples from all our batches are taken from the production area and tested to ensure water activity values are within a specified range for food quality and safety.

Further to this, we conduct Laboratory Testing in New Zealand on all our production on a weekly basis to comply with stringent EU regulations and to meet our own strict in-house requirements.

Tests conducted are for:

Salmonella
Enterobacteriaceae
APC
Yeasts and Moulds

There are strict limits imposed for these tests, and NZFSA maintain an overview of the results..

We also test on a random basis for: Ethoxyquin, BHT and BHA & Propylene Glycol

Results for these 4 tests have been negative to date, as expected.


One of our Vets is perplexed by our nutrition and immunization choices and has actually said to me, "You know much more about Chihuahua nutrition than I do." He is a great doctor but he shrugs a lot about our choices. I am okay with that because I research to bits and no one cares more for our girls and their health than us. Even our Vet.

Hope sees a holistic Vet (who was a traditional Vet for 30 years). Her practice is now limited to Chinese herbal medicine, chiropractic and acupuncture. She believes in more immunizations then I do but she is a HUGE fan of our food (ZP) and how we supplement.
I did see this and this information is important to me for sure. I think what the vet is referring to is clinical tests that prove it is an effective food to feed.
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For a clinical test just look at all of our pups. BG has been on it 2where years and Sonny a year. My holistic nutrionist is the one who started mine in ZP. She will mix in Primal and Stella and Chewys to change up proteins but all is the same basis.
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I would LOVE to see my traditional Vet prove to me that his lobby full of Hill's Science Diet is an effective food to feed.

That would be like me trying to compare the nutrition of a McDonald's hamburger with a grass-fed beef ribeye steak!

I'd have a blast going down his and my ingredient decks and comparing apples to apples. Or in his case, corn gluten meal to meat! haha!
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Also my holistic Vet approves after she researched the food. There are too many foods out there for one to keep up with so she makes you bring a print out of each food treat etc for her to read.
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