yes they do need to be social but i a simply statin i know some members on here had issues with even their dog not bein social even tho they did in fact socialize them...it just didnt work! but im just statin that it is possible for later dogs to be socialized again...just like in rescue dogs! theres stories on that in those "success stories" at shelters and fb as well

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Exactly! Then who do the owners and rescues turn to? An accredited(hopefully) professional animal behaviorist/ trainer. "I have done/ tried everything, why is he/ she so difficult?" That is always the initial response. You have to make them realize "No, this is what you did wrong. These are the mistakes and misunderstandings between 2 separate species that think differently, that have led us to this point." so we can move on and start working from there. It's a really, really, difficult. Who do you think the rescue groups turn to? These are the types of calls I would get WEEKLY.
R:"Hey we have this fox hound/ pit bull/ Aussie mix that needs to be evaluated for placement. He was temperament tested and is wonderful, but is iffy with food guarding, and has no basic manners, and chases cats."
Me: "*Sigh* How is his bite inhibition(If they even know what that means.)?"
R: "He's fine, takes everything gentle, good with his mouth."
Me: "He is fine with everything else? Good with dogs and people?"
R: "Yeah he's great, pulled him out of a high kill shelter in PA."
Me: "Okay. You want me to take him for a while, work on the issues, and evaluate his placement potential?"
R: "That would be great."

Then I(Or other trainers.) work on the issues. He will be evaluated to determine the best home to suit his needs, categorized by a number that needs to match the owner number type to be placed, based on a series of temperament tests.
Most animal rescue groups do it out of the love they have for these poor animals in their hearts, they are not professionals. They have not had any schooling or training, and don't understand learning theory or how the canine brain works. So they turn to professionals who are willing to donate their time, knowledge, and even homes. It's not a miracle. It's a butt load of hard work!

I spoke with the breeder this evening and our baby will be a little over 8 weeks when we get him. She said he is doing wonderful. He is eating hard kibble and going on puppy pads now. He still gets to nurse twice a day but on Saturday I will wean him completely. Thursday at 1:00 is his puppy physical and shots. She also said She does have to hold some litters up to 12 weeks. It ready depends on they're physical and mental progress. I never let any go before 7 weeks.the normal is 8 but citas liters always do well by 7 weeks and never have any issues.


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Welcome to the forum!

I definitely agree that Chi pups should not leave mom until 12 weeks.
Are you a breeder? Who's "cita"? I'm a little confused here.

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success stories from the owners as well not just trainers o.o like in humans a child can be taught to read at an older age even if it takes more time, its possible!

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Sorry about the earlier post after reading it is a little confusing. I did speak with the breeder. Our baby will be closer to over 9 weeks old when we get him and that he is doing wonderful. He is eating hard kibble and going on puppy pads now. He still gets to nurse twice a day but on Saturday she will wean him completely. Thursday at 1:00 is his puppy physical and shots.She said that she does have to hold some litters up to 12 weeks and that when they are ready depends on there physical and mental progress. She never let any go before 7 weeks. Her normal is 8 for Cita 'the mom' liters always do well by 7 weeks and never have any issues.Sorry for the confusion. I will be picking him up late next week. Thanks for all the replies and any additional information is greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Tony


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I totally agree! It's just so much hard work! I give anyone credit who has the consistency, love, and patience to teach a puppy, and 100 times that for anyone willing to teach an adult! Labor of love baby!

That's great your breeder was so helpful with your concerns! I still talk to my corgi Kiki's breeder a few times a year, and I got her 8 years ago! I can't tell you how nice it was, especially the first year, to be able to call her up any time and ask questions. We even used to go visit Kiki's mom until I moved to Ny (From CO). I have that relationship with my Rottie's breeder, and my chihuahuas. They are like extended family in a way, still love to get updates, and keep up with us through FB!

Congratulations on the new addition!


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