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Old 01-04-2013, 09:19 PM
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I have been considering for quite a while now on feeding my dogs raw. My oldest day who is 8mo was switched to Ziwipeak a few months ago. Once i got my second puppy they both started being fed Nature's Varitey.

But do to the cost of Nature's Varitey and how fast they go thru it, I really want to start feeding them raw myself. But I keep holding myself back because im scared im gonna do it wrong.

I get the 80 percent meat. Im im unsure as to how often to feed the organs and bone. I also read this one website:

"BONE is a four-letter word: The reason you cannot feed the bones of farm animals is because they are not fresh kill. Prey that they catch in the wild is raw, fresh and alive. The bones are still soft, supple, hydrated and full of nutrients. Bones from farm animals have been dead for days, weeks, or months. Rigor mortis sets in right after death and the bones become hard, brittle, dehydrated; the nutrients are dead and gone. What is left is a gritty substance that causes severe pancreatitis, leaky-gut, irritable bowel, impacted bowel, chalky and bloody stools, diarrhea, constipation, all of which are devastating to the gastrointestinal system.

Yes, you can occasionally give SOME dogs or cats bones for dessert; however, people often take things to the extreme, give them as a meal and give them too often. After what I have seen in the past several years, I am now opposed to feeding bone…ground or whole…except an occasional bone for dessert to chew on for pleasure. And even that needs to be evaluated depending on the individual dog/cat, how voraciously s/he goes after the bone, whether that particular dog/cat can digest it, and what it looks like when it comes out the other end. If there are any digestive problems, do not give bones. If there are any chalky or bloody stools, diarrhea or constipation, do not give bones.

Pat McKay RAW FOOD Basic Recipe

So is it even okay to really give dogs that much bone?

I would appreciated any guidence with feed my dogs raw.
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Old 01-04-2013, 09:53 PM
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Most raw feeders aim to feed 10% bone. It really isn't very much. Big, dense, weight bearing bones are best avoided, they are indeed too hard and may damage a dogs teeth. The bones we feed are much smaller and softer, such as chicken necks and wings, or pork ribs. These are much more flexible than most people realise, you can easily cut them with an ordinary kitchen knife. Even tiny Chis can chew them up without trouble.
Bones should be meaty, this is where a lot of people get the wrong idea. We don't feed stripped bones, the type that butchers often sell for dogs. Or cooked bones, ever. These are definitely dangerous for dogs.
If you want to try raw, there are lots of experienced raw feeders on this forum, who will be on hand to help guide you through it.
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Always consider the source when you read info on the internet. Pat McKay sells supplements on her website. Of course she wants you to follow her plan and to buy her products.

Not all prey that is killed is eaten right away so her theory that the bones get rigor mortis and get dry and brittle doesn't make sense. In the wild, prey is often buried and eaten days or a week later. It isn't all consumed at once.

Bone is only 10% of the diet. But it is essential. You shouldn't try do a healthy raw diet without including it. 80% meat, 10% bone, and the organs... 5% liver and 5% other secreting organ such as kidney. There are many people here and all over the web who feed raw. Research some more and do more reading and then come back with questions and we will help you.

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but you can never say again that you did not know." William Wilberforce 1759-1833
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