Closed water thread.....

[Kari]

I just read the water thread and it is closed so I cannot reply in there. But it was mentioned that Kiwi Love made those posts. If that is the case did it ever occur to anyone here, particularily the mods, that she may have done that because she knows that she cannot reply without some people jumping down her throat and kicking her out? What if she had an opinion that you guys don't agree with, and she felt intimidated to share it? What if she thought she might get banned from sharing her opinion? If that was her she probably just got tired of it and lashed out.

I really really like Ericka and I will stand up for her, even if she has done this. I can't imagine that this was her, so I hope you guys are pretty positive that it was after accusing her of doing it.

I'm just saying that alot of people here feel that they might get banned by sharing their own opinions and that is ridiculous. I even bite my tongue because I like alot of people here, even people that I disagree with and don't want to stir the pot and have alot of people dislike me because of a simple opinion, so I try to stay neutral.

At the end of the day, these are only opinions, that's all.

[my3angels]

I cannot say for sure it was her...we are investigating a glitch or a maybe hacker....I even said that I dont ever remember Kiwi love making posts like that before and wont jump the gun and accuse her...but the IP address used is the same as her account...but only for a couple posts....again we are checking into it cause its really fishy and it just doesnt seem like something KiwiLove would do.

You can share your opinion and not be banned...but saying things like "bite me" or personally attacking a member will not be tolorated. From that intire thread, the only one who got warned and eventually banned was that new member...whoever it was. No one else got warned or banned...the only reason that member got banned was by telling two people "bite me". In the forum rules you cannot do that.

Its too bad that people jump down other peoples throats. You can respectfully disagree with someone but to personally attack a member just because you dont agree with what they said....its getting crazy and yes, the mods are looking into it.

[KB]

very true Kari but it can be done in a civilized way...name calling etc etc is always the end result, which will result in warnings.....I too just cant think that it is Ericka....we are trying to see what is going on. Unfortuantely people get mad and that is why the stuff gets blown out of porportion. Trust me other forums are far more strict.

we have brought this up before and if alot of people feel this way then they need to SPEAK up and say it. If they dont like us mods then they can PM admin............I personally am getting tired of it all. it used to be so nice here. It has gotten too too big.

To say one more thing it has been said before, trying to appease everyone is not an easy task.

[KB]

i guess jess and i were writing at the same time

[Kari]

I don't believe that that was her and won't believe it until I see her admit to it. I have never seen her be rude or make any kind of negative comments towards anyone here.

Only an opinion but I think it was completely wrong to call out her name like that. If it wasn't her I hope there will be a huge apology given to her.

And if it was her, I hope people will try to understand the reasoning.

Vic, people can disagree and still respect the job that you guys do. You know that I just love you and think you do a great job. You are always here trying to fix many problems that arise.

[my3angels]

Agree totally Vic, I too am getting tired of all of this. When did this forum get like this....why all of the sudden are people jumping down other peoples throats just because they disagree wit them...I remember when we all could disagree and laugh about it at the end of the day...when you stated your opinion respectfully, the other members did the same and at the end of the day we all agreed to disagree and move on.

And yes, this forum is very laxed compared to other forums...most forums wont even allow members on if they breed, if they have mixed dogs, etc....this forum is great because we can voice our opinions freely so long as we are nice about it. I have seen a lot of chi forums who ban people because they dont have the same opinions as the people in charge...that does not happen here. I have left many sites because if you didnt share the admin's opinions u got run out of the site and I wasnt going to be a part of a site like that. I just think people are taking advantage of the site and the laxed rules and the fact they dont have to pay anything. Rememer the mods do this for free and there are only 4 of us. We work for free because we love this site but it is getting to the point where the stress and harrassment we get is becoming too much. You know how hard it is to please over 1000 members?

This isnt against you Kari ...I am just tired of people making me into a bad guy when all I try to do is give advise. Maybe all the negative energy we have to deal with is finally starting to wear on me...i dont know...all I know is that I use to LOVE coming here and now I avoid it because I know when I come on there is always an issue that needs to be addressed....and since the mods are the 'police' of this site we are the most hated.

You are right Kari, it is getting to the point were I am afraid to post my honest opinions here....I did with the water thread and look what happened...no matter what people say I did not say anything negative, I never accused anyone of being a bad owner, I never said anyone was wrong....ALL I DID was give advise I have recieved from professionals...thats is. You can disagree with the advise I was given all you want but why sit there and try to bring me down...just because you didnt like what i said..
Its hard to express a point online because what you type is subject to anyones interpretations....a couple people assumed I was being preachy but I was not....I never go into a post with the attitude that I know more...I only go into a post to give my advise and my experiences...its sad when people yell at you when all you are doing is trying to help.

I am done talking about this...I am going to go out with my friends and forget all about this site for a couple hours...again kari this post has nothing to do with u...i am just venting about the day in genearl
At least I had one member PM me telling me I helped them out

[Kari]

I know I don't hate any of you. What you guys do is tough. And you are right, it is almost impossible to make all of us happy. Especially when it is mostly women that come here.

[my3angels]

LOL