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Old 12-31-2009, 07:36 PM
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This thread was inspired by Aquarius, when she wrote about her experience .

What is a Back Yard Breeder (BYB)?

The average pet owner that breeds their dog(s).

Most of the general public thinks that just because they have *papers* on their dog, that means their dog is breed material. All papers mean is that the dog(s) parents were registered, and nothing more. It does NOT mean QUALITY! It does NOT mean the dog is CORRECT for the Standards for that breed. Most of the dogs that are registered are NOT breed material, but make fine pets.

What they do and don't do.

1) They breed dogs that are not correct for the Standards for health, temperament, and how they *suppose* to look. This is why many of the back-yard breedings that take place produce puppies which grows into adults that are incorrect.

2) They breed dogs that have the same faults, which in turn, compounds faults into the puppies.

3) They do not know the breed standards for the breed they are breeding.

4) They do not know what genetic (health) issues are for the breed they are breeding, they say that there are NO problems associated with the breed, or ask, “what problems?”

5) They are not there for you IF you have problems or questions through-out the lifetime of your dog.

6) They do not require spay/neuter contracts, nor do they supply you with a written contract/guarantee, nor do they require the dog be returned to them if you can no longer keep the animal.

7) They think they can make just make money breeding.

Some will screen potential buyers and some won’t. Most really don’t care what happens to the puppy after it leaves their house.

Why They Create Damage?

1) With them not requiring spay/neuters, when those dogs are eventually bred (as most will do), then it compounds the problems... more and more dogs are being produced in an overly populated world already. Just go to your local shelter and look at all those dogs. They were someone’s pet at some point in their life. Most of them would come from someone just wanting to breed their pets just once or twice.

2) By continued irresponsible breeding(s), more and more dogs end up in rescue, shelters, dumped, research labs, used as bait dogs for dog fighting (YES IT STILL HAPPENS!!!!!) or at the hands of commerical dog breeders (Puppy Mill Breeders) or commerical brokers (Puppy Mill Brokers).
Note: Brokers buy from the commercial dog breeders and sell directly to the PetStores or directly to the Public

Although this artical was wrote on a Boxers website I think it relates a lot to Chihuahuas.
Artical from boxerworld.com
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Good article

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True but if someone doesnt require that they spay their puppies or have contracts it doesnt make them bad? I believe yes they should be but surely it is the owners choise whether they wish to spay or not?
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True but if someone doesnt require that they spay their puppies or have contracts it doesnt make them bad? I believe yes they should be but surely it is the owners choise whether they wish to spay or not?
Ultimately even if you sign a contract saying that you WILL spay, I doubt if it's enforceable

However, I think a good breeder (few and far between sadly) would not want to see their pet quality Chihuahuas bred form.

That said most people breeding are not breeding to standard as can be judged by the dogs and bitches they are using. So, we can only presume they aren't going to be that bothered if the people they sell to are going to breed

For after all if they are simply breeding from pet quality Chihuahuas to sell on the free ad sites...How can they ask other people not to

Neutering is a personal choice, but for the Chihauhua owner that simply wants to do the best for their dogs and love them as purely companions...It's the kindest option...In most peoples opinions

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Yes totally i agree its a personal matter and it shouldnt determine whether you are a "good" or "bad" breeder. Bad (in most cases Back yard breeding) is over-breeding and not caring for your animals health/welfare and doing it purely for money. Not whether you offer spay contracts etc. And also if you are breeding your pets yes i agree pets are pets and other dogs are bought purely for breeding but if its done properly and they all find loving homes and not sold at rediculouly high prices then its your choice to breed or not. Baring in mind these quick money making schemes usually end in bad quailty babies and/or loosing your baby(pet).
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Yes totally i agree its a personal matter and it shouldnt determine whether you are a "good" or "bad" breeder. Bad (in most cases Back yard breeding) is over-breeding and not caring for your animals health/welfare and doing it purely for money. Not whether you offer spay contracts etc. And also if you are breeding your pets yes i agree pets are pets and other dogs are bought purely for breeding but if its done properly and they all find loving homes and not sold at rediculouly high prices then its your choice to breed or not. Baring in mind these quick money making schemes usually end in bad quailty babies and/or loosing your baby(pet).
I think choosing to breed Chihuahuas at the moment must only be taken with great consideration. The puppy sites are bursting at the seams with them and unfortunately the number of Chihuahuas being bred has risen beyond the good permanent homes available

At one time Chihuahuas were only, no, that's not quite true...Mostly available from people with many years experience with the breed and who bred to improve standard and hopefully health.

Now you simply have to look at the Chihuahua girls being bought for breeding by some and the stud dogs advertised online to realise why so many of the Chi's being bred look nothing like they should.

Personally one of the marks of a good Chihuahua breeder in my eyes would be to have a spay neuter contract and reimburse say two thirds of cost once vet bill is produced by new owner..Confirming the neuter. Well I can dream

The thing is so many buyers see others breeding Chihuahuas and making money...And they want a slice of the pie too

Personally I'd only ever buy from a breeder who is a member of the British Chihuahua Club now and that's what I recommend other people do too.
At least they have a pretty good code of ethics

Link to code of ethics on this page

http://www.the-british-chihuahua-clu...CodeEthics.php

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