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Old 04-10-2005, 04:21 PM
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I am interested in breeding chihuahuas in the next 2-5 years. I have a few questions regarding breeding. I posted this in the main chat forum, but did not get the responses that I asked for so I am pretty sure it will be more beneficial posted here.

1. Although I plan on fixing Guinness, my non-registered chi - just out of curiosity would it be taboo to breed him although his background is unknown (besides the fact that he is 100% chi?) ... well and healthy and handsome (but I'm just bias)

2. How can I convince a breeder to sell me a breeding quality, championship quality dog for breeding (and pets, I would never own more that I could take care of myself as members of my own family) - without having bred before? For example (to clarify my question) - some breeders will only sell to other reputable breeders. How can I show that I am in this for the love of the breed, and not for puppy-mill profit without having actually bred dogs before? I only want to breed healthy/happy/beautiful pups, but how can I do that if breeders only want to sell breeder-worthy pups to people who have already bred before. (Does this make sense?)

3. I have read numerous places that over 1000$ is beyond a reasonable price for a well bred chi. Is this true? What are the factors in deciding a price? Do you sell more for "pet" quality than "show" and "breeders"? Or do you sell them all for the same, as they are all wonderful pups and should go to wonderful homes, regardless?

Okay, I'm stopping at these three questions for now
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Old 04-10-2005, 10:53 PM
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[quote="AlekonaKini"]I am interested in breeding chihuahuas in the next 2-5 years. I have a few questions regarding breeding. I posted this in the main chat forum, but did not get the responses that I asked for so I am pretty sure it will be more beneficial posted here.

1. Although I plan on fixing Guinness, my non-registered chi - just out of curiosity would it be taboo to breed him although his background is unknown (besides the fact that he is 100% chi?) ... well and healthy and handsome (but I'm just bias)
2. How can I convince a breeder to sell me a breeding quality, championship quality dog for breeding and pets, I would never own more that I could take care of myself as members of my own family) - without having bred before? For example (to clarify my question) - some breeders will only sell to other reputable breeders. How can I show that I am in this for the love of the breed, and not for puppy-mill profit without having actually bred dogs before? I only want to breed healthy/happy/beautiful pups, but how can I do that if breeders only want to sell breeder-worthy pups to people who have already bred before. (Does this make sense?)
3. I have read numerous places that over 1000$ is beyond a reasonable price for a well bred chi. Is this true? What are the factors in deciding a price? Do you sell more for "pet" quality than "show" and "breeders"? Or do you sell them all for the same, as they are all wonderful pups and should go to wonderful homes, regardless?

Okay, I'm stopping at these three questions for now

yes it would be taboo to breed your dog. yo have no idea if the breeder interbred if there are health issues in the lines. breeding dogs without papers and not knowing what the history of that dog is not going to preserve the breed. Thats what true breeders breed for. some people just breeding dogs unregistered are doing it for a profit. Breeding for wonderful homes is not a reason to breed. The fact of the matter is, you seem to be presenting yourself as being interested in the money part of it. There is more to breeding then just getting two dogs to breed it takes alot of time effort and patience and those are the easy aspects. It is obvious you dont know about bredding chi's that could be an issue with show breeders. They will not sell to anyone especially someone who wants to breed there stock for pet quality dogs. thye will sell dogs they have no use for ones that have been used to stud or breed and can no longer do so because of too many c-sections and other factors. and most likely they will have to be fixed or already have been. those people make a name for themselves and invest alot of time and money into thier dogs I myself am a hobby breeder however, i would not give my pups to anyone with breeding rights. they must be fixed. I wouldnt want anyone using my pups for financial gain or to as you put it for a wonderful home. I want my pups to go to a wonderful home period to be pets not puppy machines. there are many rescues that need homes
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also for question 3 I dont know alot about breeding but at the age you sell the pup at 12 weeks it would be impossible to tell if the pup was show quality or breeding quality until it was older - so you could only sell them for the same for example : you sell a bitch for 1000 at 12 weeks as you think she will make a good mom when shes older - but she only ever gets to 2 pounds - there is no way to tell these factors - do you know what I mean ? lol or am i waffling on about something I have no real clue about Just my 2 pence worth
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Keep in mind I never planned to breed Guinness - I just wanted to make sure I understood the little things about breeding. He's getting fixed no matter what I do only want to breed healthy dogs.

As for the price - that makes perfect sense. Plus, I would feel like I was devaluing the dog if I sold them for less only because they were "pet quality" - even though they are healthy, cute and sweet.

Though I could understand lowering the price by like.. 100$ with a spaying/neutering clause/contract. For example, if they spay or neuter their pet within 6 months, they get 100$ refund.

I was checking out the laws in selling pets in FL - and there are a lot of factors I have to present.. Picking out the dogs I would want to breed are going to be tough and will take quite a while to pick - but I have a lifetime
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Im guessing she doesnt know an answer to give you.

I would neuter your male if you do not know the background. You dont know what his genetics might carry and you only should breed to better the chi breed....nothing more.


Dont know how you go about buying a chi that is for breeding. I am guessing you should go look for a great bloodline and a breeder who is known for producing wonderful representations of the chi breed. Sometimes a breeder can guess as too what chi pup will make a better show dog then the next...but it all depends.

You sell your pups no sooner then 12wks of age and you ONLY sell them to people who will give them wonderful homes! Some breeders wont sell to people who want to breed their pups. You will always get a pup or two who does not fit the chi standard and those are the ones who are sold as "pet-quality"...it doesnt mean they get less of a home...it just means they wont be able to show.

Well thats the best I can do to answer your question b/c I am not a breeder. Best of luck!
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Old 04-11-2005, 06:36 AM
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the emoticons were for i felt like i was banging my head against a brick wall read the post i posted above this one. is it me not expressing myself properly? I thought i gave her an answer i understood what she was saying/ does anyone get the meaning of my previous post? again lol
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