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So the babies went for their 3rd DHPP shot today, and Henry also got his Rabies shot.

This was the first time for Harper at this vet, and the vet started looking her over and was just stunned at how tiny she was. She kept comparing her paws/arms and her teeth to Henry and said "There is no way that this dog is almost 18 weeks - I wouldn't place her over 8 weeks max". I tried telling her that she came from a littler of 6, was under 2oz when she was born, her siblings were all twice the size of her, and has a small Dad. She still tried telling me that the breeder must have lied, or mixed up the puppies. I have photo "evidence" of when she was born via dates/times on Facebook - there is no way the breeder lied about the age. Harper is just that small, she's 1.8lbs now (so not SUPER teeny, but she's short too so she looks midgety). The vet couldn't believe it - tinies are NOT common around here at all. She wanted to do a systemic de-worming as well but apparently Harper didn't weigh enough for it ( ) and we're just doing heartworm instead (she has been dewormed at the breeder but I forgot the paper so the vet really wanted to do it again).

She was SO reluctant to even do the DHPP shot (even though Harper has record of 2 prior successful shots) and is refusing to the rabies until "she is 4 pounds" - haha she will never make 4 pounds, so I'm going to wait until she makes 2 or 2.25. The vet also insisted on using half doses of the vaccine DHPP today for her, and will for rabies as well.

Henry is such a big boy - 3.5lbs. He'll probably be 5.5lbs full grown as he's 18 weeks now. We told the vet he is lifting his leg to pee, but still - no balls. She tried feeling around for them and said she couldn't find the balls. I'm a little worried about that, but hopefully they'll drop soon so he can be neutered.

All in all, a successful vet trip!
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Glad you enjoyed the vet visit. Your pups look super cute.
Don't worry about the testicles not dropping just yet, give
it time, they usually do by six months, it's not uncommon
however for them to take a bit longer.
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Glad all went well with the vet visit!


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They are 2 beautiful babies!!
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WOW! I am glad to see a Vet who cares about vaccinations as most do not! You have a good Vet!

They are too cute! Enjoy them
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Their gorgeous! Really good that your vet seems to genuinely care about your pups, most are about making money. Love the names you've chose also x
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Gorgeous babies. I should point out that if Henry ends up at 5.5lbs he will still be quite tiny, that is still within the show standard weight range. I have two that size, and it is a great size, they are big enough to be hugged. We also have a petite 4lber, you can't really cuddle her, there is nothing to hug!
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Just throwing my 2 cents in.

First, you will find very few vets that see teeny Chi's. Reason being is that the average Chi within standard is about 5/6 lbs. On average, 5 to 8 lbs. is the "norm." So their first reaction is usually to tell you that the pup will most likely have health issues that have kept the pup from thriving.

Pups are just like children. Until they reach maturity, a healthy pup will consistently gain weight. If they aren't, that's when you need to start thinking about blood panels, etc. On average, at Harpers size, you should see about 2 oz. gain each week. She could very well top out at 4 lbs. Runts develop slower. At full growth she may be Dad's size. The bigger pups may be following Mom's size. Usually the litter will be between Mom or Dad's size.

Genetic tinies aren't runts. They get their size from somewhere in their lines. Runts are many times just prematurely born with the rest of the litter. Being conceived from a later tie.

Tinies aren't common anywhere. You just don't see many that top out under 4 lbs. grown. Ethical breeders do not choose their lines for under this size for several reasons.

As for HW treatment, vets usually start that at 2 lbs. As none of the treatments are made for under this weight. With Jade, even though she weighs 2 lbs, my vet still recommends half of the pill. In a dog that size, you have to be very careful with meds. Even when healthy, it can be very taxing to their immune systems.

Your vet was smart to choose half doses of the vaccines. I almost lost Lexie to a horrible vaccine reaction. Her first vet was clueless, and so was I. Lexie being my first.

Most counties are very strict about rabies vaccines. But my vet is willing to take the liability going with half vaccines. It's really not even half that they use. But he's aware that a full dose could kill them. So it's great that you've found a vet that knows the risks and is willing to do the right thing by your pup.

My troop had their first rabies after their first birthday. But I know none of them weighed even close to 4 lbs. You might want to discuss that with your vet further. If your dog even nips someone without their rabies shot, they can force you to have them quarantined for 10 days.

The testicles are normally down by 18 weeks, but that doesn't mean that they won't drop. After 6 months old, it's safe to assume that they won't.

As Stella mentioned, a 5 lb. dog is tiny. Under 4 lbs., there isn't much to them. Especially the little cobby guys. So if little Harper makes it to 4 lbs., she'll still be itty bitty.

This is Chance at Harpers age. He now weighs right under 4 lbs. So there is a chance your Angel will hit some nice growth spurts. She appears very healthy for a wee tike.



Sounds like a great vet visit! Happy to hear all is well with both babies!



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