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These are lighter, are these worth a look? Both are girls, 8 weeks old. They won't be able to come home for 2 more weeks. They are charting to be in the 5 1/2 to 6 pound range.
Puppy 1 This little girl is white with cream fawn spots, she has both eye and ear patches and has good spotting. She has a great coat. I can not tell if her nose is blue or black but she does carry chocolate from her sire and blue from her mother so will be able to produce every color




Puppy 2 She is cream/fawn. I believe she is irish marked with one eye/ear patch. She is very light so it is hard to tell. I also believe she is a merle. I can not tell if her nose is blue or black but she carries both chocolate and blue so will produce all colors


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tough decision, both lovely
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I love them both ,so pretty
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You really take your chances with a puppy. Some turn out, some don't. Truly, ALLLLLL puppies are cute.

If it were me, I'd be looking at the parents first and the puppies second. What do the parents look like? Stacked photos? Any grandparents you can view? What about grown pups from earlier litters? Relatives? If you like the parents, you will likely be pleased with how your puppy turns out.

What about health testing? Are the parents lines clean of LP? Legg Perthes? PRA? Personally I'd want to see, at the very minimum, OFA hips and knees on a breeding/showing prospect. A CERF (for eyes) would be great to have as well.

Look at the pedigree. Is it a hodge podge of kennels? Is there some line breeding? How many dogs were shown? A champion 3 or 4 generations back doesn't mean much. I'd want to see a strong pedigree with some good strong dogs on both sire and dams side.

Look at the breeder. Do they show? Health test? Belong to any local clubs? Are they 'involved' in the dog world? Or are they off in their own little world just churning out puppies and calling them 'showable'.

Do they require a co-ownership? What questions are they asking YOU. A top notch show breeder isn't going to just hand over a nice quality show dog to anyone. You will be interrogated. References checked. You probably won't get a female. You may have limited registration until the breeder revokes it and gives you full ownership. There may be strings attached. Research the breeder as well.

Have you gotten a referral to a local show breeder? The internet can portray any kennel as 'repubable' and clever photographers can make any puppy look cute. I would start by contacting the CCA (chi club of america) and looking at their referrals in your area. Then maybe contact a local all breed club and get more referrals. Toy dog clubs can also help you out as they will all know each other. Don't go by pics on the computer. It's an easy way to get taken.

Find a breeder who is willing to mentor you. Someone who wants to help you out. That's really invaluable. Cultivate a relationship with this person. They may not have your puppy right now. But perhaps 6 months from now, something will come along. Don't be in a hurry.

Good luck.
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It's definitely hard to to pick a pup for show. I would definitely skip the second. You want to find a pup that has nice black pigment. And #2 looks to have light pigment. #1 is questionable in that department as well though looks better than #2. The build for #1 looks ok. Something looks off with her head though....could be the pic.

This is the pic I went to see Lulu on. I wasn't expecting much with her but I liked the look of her face in the pic (that's all I could really see LOL) so I thought it was worth a peek. If a pup sticks out at you for one reason or another...I'd go look. Granted it depends on how far away they are. Getting a pup from a pet breeder is tricky & so far I've lucked out with Lulu as she still looks good. She is from a pet breeder who gets the majority of her dogs from show breeders. She doesn't know the technicalities of show quality and as Kristi pointed out probably wouldn't know if she had a really nice show quality pup! She just knows the basics of the standard so it was actually quite stressful depending on myself to know what I was looking at since I am still learning myself!

I would definitely look at parents & grandparents. Possibly go take a peek at girl #1. Check her mouth & ask or look at the parents mouth as well. Dark pigment is really important though as it makes their features "pop" & just gives them a pretty/attractive look. #1 is definitely the best choice for a show pup out of these two but as Tracy said puppies change so much so it's hard to pick one to show not knowing if they'll mature out even if they're nice puppies.

Good luck in your search!!

Oh & the pic of Lulu that made me want to go see her:
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I don't know a thing about show dogs..but those pups are pretty darn cute...hard to resist getting both I'm sure
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It looks like the breeder shows in a limited way, but all her dogs are out of champion lines.
This is the dad, he's a champion out of a champion.

This is the mom, doesn't look as if she herself was shown


She also has this little girl, same dad, different mom





Mom for lastest pup

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Dad is pretty. Is he a merle? The latest pup looks nice but the fact she has a merle dad (or a dilute at least if he's blue) & dilute mum make me nervous. And again...the black pigment isn't there. Very cute girl though!
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