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Old 12-07-2015, 05:42 AM
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I have 2 chihuahuas. One is 3 years old, the other one is 2 years old.

I got them both when they were 8 months old.

I never had chihuahuas before and I love these guys even though I would not have picked this breed (actually I would have picked at cat). Both are rescues. It came down to me or death by injection just because they were unwanted.

I just can never get a straight answer to the frequency of potty breaks.

The answers I have gotten so far are:

take your puppy out according to how many months old they are (not applicable since they are grown dogs).

The other answers I get is; Take your dogs out upon waking in the morning, after they eat, after any naps they take, before bedtime, after I come home from going anywhere. That's six times a day! I've weaned them down to 4 times a day (when they wake me up in the morning (this can be as early as 6:30 am as the one dog will wake me up because they have to go NOW, after their morning nap when they wake up around noon. Around 5:00 after they have afternoon snack (snacks lower their blood sugar), and and at bedtime.

Upon them waking me up (it's always on their terms) because sometimes they don't give me time to at least pee for myself. I'd like to dress decently instead of throwing on clothes and not getting to brush my teeth, comb my hair.

If I take the time to get decent at least, most of the time, the one will pee on the floor. For one of my dogs, waking me up to go outside means NOW, no dressing, no going to the bathroom, no hair brushing, no making coffee, no feeding them before going out and sometimes even skipping peeing myself first or they will pee inside.

I feel like this dog is running my life! Their terms or the one pees on the floor.

Tonight I feel resentful because of this! I have a bad cold with fever...I've even had to call my friend/dog sitter to take them out 2 out of the 4 times they need to go out.

The potty issue is affecting the quality of my sleep and therefore, my health.

I feel I've never gotten a straight answer to this question; neither from other chi owners or the vet assistant my vet clinic.

The answers I get are: take your puppy out one time for each month in age. (they are not puppies and therefore, this calculation is irrelevant).

I asked the vet assistant at the clinic and she explained that small dogs have small bladders, therefore they need to go out more frequently than other dogs.

I even had one dog owner advise me that my dogs are spoiled and that her dogs could hold it as long as her work day!

I am a disabled veteran and accepted the first one to help with my PTSD and they are good at helping me out with that greatly. I got the 2nd one for the first dogs birthday so he would have company.

I often have doctors appointments and therapy at the Veteran's Administration and it takes on average, 6 hours away from home (yes, I know, put 'em in their crate), but if I go for health treatment, sometimes they advise a hospital stay for observation and/or tests overnight. That leaves them in the crate until I call their sitter...sometimes I can't reach them right away because they work and their children are in school.

Even though I am 100% disabled and can stay with them all day, I can't figure out how to overcome the limited amount of time I can leave them. I'd like to go to vocational training to learn a new profession I can do so I can get off disability and earn a decent wage.

One of the walks I go on with them is for an hour as I have learned from professional dog trainers that this helps them with their potty schedule.

If I don't take them out every 4 hours (and sometimes if I am lucky, 6 hours), I'm sure to come home to a mistake which trainers tell me is my fault. I don't mind taking the blame, but there has got to be a better way.

Crating them at night defeats the purpose of having them...they help with security knowing they are right there with me. They help lessen the severity and time to recover from night terrors I have from PTSD.

The first dog I got was a rescue...it was either me or the pound, so I didn't get to choose the breed. I love both of them and wouldn't give them up for anything.

I just need a simple answer...how often do they absolutely need to go out?

Another question, not as important, how do I get them to settle down when they want to go out. They have an ear-splitting whine and crawl on me until I give in.

They are trained in every other way except an occasional refusal of a recall command when off leash...this is very infrequent.

Please help me!
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:20 AM
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There isn't really a simple answer to this question as all dogs are different. Some need to go out more often than others. All dog owners are different with different schedules too so the amounts of potty breaks will vary from one person to the other.

I personally take my chis out 3 times a day (sometimes 4). 1) As soon as we get up, I feed them breakfast and take them out straight after (that's between 8:30-10am). 2) In the middle of the afternoon (2-3pm) and that's usually a proper walk. 3) After their dinner (8-9pm).

Mine are also trained to use pee pads indoors in case they need to go in between those times (and for when I'm gone during the day). I would recommend trying that if you haven't already. That way if you're not home or if your chis are so desperate to go that they can't wait for you to get ready, they can go on the pad instead.

Also do they have specific places in the house where they tend to pee? If so I would recommend limiting their access to those places around times when you know they need to go out. For example I would keep them confined in the room you're in in the morning while you're getting ready so you can keep an eye on them / they can't wander off and pee somewhere.
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Hi, welcome to cp. what are your chis names?
It seems like you have had this issue for a while and it's sad that its ruling your life so it seems that whatever you are doing isnt working, personally I would just try and start over. Press refresh and start again, get into a reliable realistic routine. Have you thought about using a pen, this way you could have a pad down just incase and an area for them to sleep and play? But if you focus to get them out at similar times daily then hopefully it will begin to work. I'm currently training four puppies and it's so stressful at times I just have to remind myself patience is the key.
I really hope this helps and I would love to see some photos of both your babies
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I would invest in a pen. I use the iris pen. Then when you are awakened too early for you to get into clothes and go to the bathroom, you could put them into this pen. Have it lined with newspapers/disposable pee pads/human washable pee pads that fit this pen. That way you could go about getting ready without wondering and rushing about.

the other thing I noticed in your post is that you said that 'snacks lower their blood sugar" Maybe you meant 'raise' blood sugar? If you meant you fed them snacks to prevent their blood sugar from going too low, thats right. Just not sure of what you meant.

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I do mine every 3 hours since I have older dogs, ages 12- 15, sometimes they can go longer.. the chi I'm fostering has a UTI so it's every 2 hours... Sometimes she does well for 4 , sometimes not..
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:37 PM
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An average size chi has a bladder about the size of a dime. It will stretch a bit larger as they learn to hold it but it won't ever be very big. I feel it's cruel to make a dog hold it too long because it hurts and you're setting it up for failure. Just my personal opinion. I leave newspaper or pee pads down when I'm not home. Also the climate where I live is mild most of the time so I can leave the back door open enough for them. A small doggie door is good, too.
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Mine are also trained to use pee pads indoors in case they need to go in between those times (and for when I'm gone during the day). I would recommend trying that if you haven't already. That way if you're not home or if your chis are so desperate to go that they can't wait for you to get ready, they can go on the pad instead.
Great advice, Camille! It's true that these tiny dogs have tiny bladders, and their schedules/preferences really are different from dog to dog! Giving them an "in between" area will not only give them the boundaries they seek, but lessen stress on you! Pee pad training is a great way to help you all out. My chihuahua is litter box trained, so there are a lot of mediums and there's nothing wrong with it!

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Also do they have specific places in the house where they tend to pee? If so I would recommend limiting their access to those places around times when you know they need to go out. For example I would keep them confined in the room you're in in the morning while you're getting ready so you can keep an eye on them / they can't wander off and pee somewhere.
Again, awesome advice. Dogs are creatures of habit so if they're used to going in a specific area, you can either set the pee pad down in their "usual pee spot" OR limit their access to it, as Miss Camille said above. Also, I would suggest you get a cleaner with enzyme dissolvents to break down the built-up smell in those areas. I so wish I could remember the great cleaner I used to use in my favorite grooming shop, but I can't. Maybe others on here have a good enzyme cleaner they use!

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I would invest in a pen. I use the iris pen.
I know you probably don't want to pen them up because they help you so much. Believe me, I understand. My dogs are the most incredible thing that ever happened to me, and they help me SO MUCH just by being there! I know you want them with you every single second of every single day. They are so magical and chihuahua's hearts are especially big!!! But it's true. If you want to have your routine in the morning, this is great advice. Investing in a "safe place" for your pups is very comforting to them (they really don't want to make you unhappy, stress you out and "make mistakes") and giving them a "safe place" for them to "be" will help you all out greatly. Even if it's just a place you won't mind that they wee in, it will help all of you out.

Sometimes we make the mistake of thinking these tiny dogs fully understand our giant human world. They don't. They need extra rules and boundaries to help them feel secure and safe! I learned this because I had rottweilers and Australian shepherds, and thought my chihuahua "was a dog, too" and the training methods and ideology would work for her, too. But it simply isn't true. To help a tiny dog feel secure (by knowing exactly what's expected of him) he needs extra care and extra considerations. Chihuahuas are magical little creatures, they're like a cross between a cat/parrot/dog/hamster!

I am so glad they help you after your courage serving us. But it's important you understand that if you try to let them "have full run of things" that simply isn't something they understand. The world is enormous to them, and they need things like pens, crates and "in between" places to potty and collect themselves if they're stressed. I have absolutely no doubt that with how much you love them and want them to be in your life (and how lucky you are to be with them all day!) you will find a solution.

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There are the best answers I have ever heard here on this subject-this is not a simple question. I tried everything in a home that was very large the first year I had these two and was unable to get them neither pad trained nor potty trained consistently-they are very small and it would take a millisecond for them to cute their way to a small place that we only found later. They ran the place-these are my babies but even that was just so overwhelming to me. We sold our home for a much smaller one and I began preparing them while clearing the house. We ended up putting a baby gate at the family room entrance and just using a pee pad in an area we could watch. This worked amazingly. We take the dogs out for walks and runs and they do go outside as well but the rest of the time have been almost completely pad trained very well since then. Now that we are in our little place we really have had no problems these past couple years as they are always with us when we are at home and they are pretty well trained now.

This can be very frustrating and a lot of work when they are learning but they will get to it. In the meantime, to lessen some pressure on you, have you thought to at least partial pad training? Boundaries are also the best thing for them to feel secure as well and they need to get used to that. It's your home-believe me, chis live to make their owner happy. You just have to be firm in showing them what you expect of them and what is not acceptable.

Ignoring the whining is the only way but not a simple action. If they have already been doing this then it won't be overnight for them to learn that it won't help them get your attention that way. Once you turn your back on it and pay it no heed then eventually they will be only at intervals and then stop.

Only want to caution that even a trained chihuahua can become a little moody and sensitive at times. Expect them to try to do what you are training them to be but not complete perfection and enjoy those little guys. Rather then give you more stress, they can give you the most joy when you really need it.
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