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Old 01-21-2016, 12:47 AM
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Hi guys; we've had out baby for about a week now, and he had his very first vet visit since the breeder's 9ish months ago. Everything checked out okay to my knowledge... I heard some yelping when he was in the back and if it was him ( it may have been, I don't think they had any other dogs ) then it is a terrible sound I have never heard from him before. :<
they trimmed his nails and ofcourse checked his temp with a rather unpleasant thermometer up the tush, so I'm guessing it was one or both of these that caused the yelps.... but when they brought him back out he was wagging his tail furiously, so everything seemed okay.

They gave him his shots because he had not had them since the breeder's first round. I can check what all they were if need be, but they were pretty standard. He didn't love it, but he seemed okay.

So we took him home and he slept super soundly, seemed pretty fine. I fed him and then sat down to read while I waited for him to go. ( He doesn't understand going on command yet and gives no sign when he needs to potty and doesn't potty on a schedule and will just hold it when we're snuggling or for who knows what other reasons, so sitting down with him and reading for an hour or so is usually a good way to get him to go eventually. )
In a little bit, he wanted into my lap, so I let him hop up and he laid down and I started petting him....

all of a sudden he shoots out of my lap and rushes to his potty spot and tries to poop.... then he starts acting weird and lies down in the potty spot. I reach to pick him up and place him back in my lap for more sleep-- which is what he usually prefers, and he panicked and jerked away from me. He stood frozen in terror for a millennium, and eventually began nervously stepping around very slowly while trembling. This went on for hours. :<
I tried lying on the ground, which helped a little but not much.... toys, treats, leaving and coming back, but any time he started to perk up he'd go right back to his nervous self shortly....
I thought maybe he wanted space, so I tried to leave but he started crying. So now I'm sitting in a bathroom with a 'neurotic' chihuahua curled up in a blanket that wants nothing to do with me but gets super upset if I leave.

mostly, I'm just insanely worried about him. I can't figure out what triggered it and made him so afraid of me.... or maybe just afraid in general?
Could it be a side effect of the vaccines? the weird day even though he initially seemed to take it so well and even enjoy parts of it? did trying to poop bring back 'trauma' of the thermometer moment and just freak him out? Anyone have any ideas? :/

I did get him to play with his ball until it rolled behind his potty spot, at which he seemed to get nervous and stop... so I put some treat crumbs on the potty spot to coax him into examining it positively, and he did so and then eliminated and seemed fine.... but after I praised him and gave him his treat, he yet again seemed nervous and uncomfortable....

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Old 01-21-2016, 01:27 AM
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Hard to say, but it sounds more like pain than genuine fear to me. Did he manage to poo? If so was it normal?
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Yes; after I tried to get him to relax in a couple different ways, I managed to get him playing with his ball... but when he pushed it behind the potty spot by accident, he immediately stopped and stared at the potty spot and got nervous again. He sometimes avoids the potty spot for prolonged periods of time and I'll put a few treat crumbs on it ( we use puppy pads and they're always fresh, so it's sanitary ) to remind him that it's a nice spot that brings good things. I tried that this time too; he went for them a little slower than usual, but didn't show too much nervousness. After he finished the crumbs, he immediately went poo and didn't seem distressed by it at all. The poo looked normal-- not too soft but also not too hard. no signs of blood or anything.

He tends to lick his tush before and after going-- I'm not sure if this is a cleaning habit. His anal area gets red and protrudes notably before he goes, but to my knowledge this is normal. ( I have to say I've never stared that hard at a dog pooing before and have never had the angle to do so prior to chi's, and I've always had medium to big dogs, so all the strangely dwarfed parts of a chihuahua that are a little too small for 'regular' function is all super new to me. )

He licks it pretty obsessively, spins around a lot trying to get at it and tries to wedge himself places where it is easier to reach. He'll do this afterward for a few minutes before he'll finally settle down, usually.

Does any of that sound like a point of concern in chi's?

He's also not neutered-- his previous owner did not have it done, and we're both fearful of personality changes and reluctant to put that on him so soon after he has gotten to a new home with new rules and events.
He's also had quite a few baths lately, because the crate his old owner had was too big and he always pottied in it... the new one is the right size, but he still potties in it and has to be bathed when we get home. I only crate him on Tuesdays and Thursdays when I'm at school, so it's only twice a week.. it's more than I'd like but it's better than constantly soiling himself.. I avoid using shampoo when it's just pee, but if he poos I use shampoo because I figured it would help clean him better and there's much more sanitation concerns involved....

The vet said that being intact can place pressure on the anal region, but that she thought that shouldn't be a concern at 10.5 months....
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The licking and fussing around his bottom, (and it going red and protruding) before he poos is not normal.
I doubt it is linked to being entire, if you want to keep him entire that is perfectly fine.
It sounds like he may have issues with his anal glands or his bottom is sore.
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Alright, thank-you.... I will try the vet again. I mentioned the licking issue, and they just sortof looked at me funny and moved on... but if I mention the protruding and the strange reaction then perhaps they will reconsider.

I hope they will not simply advise neutering though; they already tried multiple times with the 'it'll prevent marking' line of advice, and I hope it's not what they immediately decide to blame for his tush issues, especially if there's likely some more underlying concern...

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I have restored your original post, it is hard for others to comment or advise without knowing the full story
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ah, I just thought the information seemed irrelevant since we now knew it was not a fear issue but rather something wrong in the rectal region. my mistake
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If yourvet jumps right to neutering you may try another vet office as well.

I think it sounds like a gland problem also. Hope it can be resolved.
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