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Since getting Angel, it hasn't been without it's struggles but for the past few months many of battles we had we don't really have them anymore except one. I have never mentioned it along with the others because I figured it would work itself out. However, that has not been the case.....

She has always been aggressive with other dogs, I read that Chihuahua's are territorial in that way so I kind of expected it a little. There were 2 little dogs that lived in my subdivision that when their owners let them out would walk down to my house or past it and Angel would growl and bark. One day she saw one of them up the street at their owner's house and she took off charging the dog, the dog took off and wouldn't even come down to my house anymore. Even when they did come they came and I guess in dog fashion sniffed each other and circled each other. One dog did get a little aggressive with Angel, but she got aggressive back and he ran off. Other then that the 2 dogs weren't mean. But, like I said I kind of expected it with Chihuahua's a little, especially with dogs they don't know.

Now here is the problem, my sister has a dog, a shih tzu, I have never seen her act in an aggressive way, she is playful but never aggressive and pretty calm. My sister loves Angel so whenever I go to her house to hangout, I usually take her with us. From the first time I took her over there she has not gotten along with Lola. I knew I needed to ease her into being around Lola and the first time I took her, I had her on her leash, Lola came over to greet her and Angel started growling, I had to pull her back and tell her no. This happened every-time I take her even while still easing her into being around Lola. About a 2 month ago I was there, Angel, my son were in my nephew's room along Lola, and all of a sudden we hear growling, braking and then a loud yelp, Lola comes flying out shaking and runs to hide. My son and nephew come out saying Angel jumped on Lola, OMG. We asked if Lola did anything they said no. Now whenever I go over and Lola sees Angel she takes off and will not come downstairs. If she does she stays clear of her. The other day I was over there and we were in my sister's kitchen, Angel was sitting next to me in her bed, Lola comes in the kitchen and Angel charges her.... right now I have decided not to take her because of it.....can't have her attacking my sister's dog.

That's not all, she has been around all 4 of my nephews since I got her (last Nov.), I have tried to socialize her like I've read to get her comfortable around them. Most of the time she is, she has her moments but most of the time she let's them pet her, she will sit with them or go outside and run around with them. In the past 2 weeks she has growled at and bit 2 of them and I was sitting right there, so they didn't do anything other than try to pet her. She did the same thing to my other sister twice.

My family is close so we are always over each others houses hanging out, they all welcome Angel and have no problem with her, but right now I can't take her and I am not sure what to do. I give her a firm NO, telling her no biting when she does it and make her sit/lay down, so I'm trying to get her to understand it's not ok. As far as I can tell there is nothing wrong with her, she is fine at home, her regular playful self, she eats fine etc... so I don't know. Some might say take her to the vet get her checked, or to a class but unfortunately right now I can not afford to spend the extra money, vets and classes around where I am aren't cheap at all. A month ago I had to spend $300 (put me in bind) that I didn't have because she got sick and this clinic was the cheapest I could find close. (another post)

Any advice on what I can do or what it could be?
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First of all, quit punishing her for growling etc. In HER mind if you say NO loudly, she thinks 'oh my, my person is angry, so it must have come from this dog being here.' I think this dog would do real well with a pen/large crate. She would see everything, and still be safe. I would not encourage the children to play with her. She is obviously uncomfortable there. I use an Iris pen. Easy set up and take down. After she gets better (hopefully) the children can sit on the ground and feed her tiny bits of treats. No petting. Just look for the sign that when the children come around, she looks for the treat. At this time I would invest in a portable pen. Good luck.
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First of all, quit punishing her for growling etc. In HER mind if you say NO loudly, she thinks 'oh my, my person is angry, so it must have come from this dog being here.' I think this dog would do real well with a pen/large crate. She would see everything, and still be safe. I would not encourage the children to play with her. She is obviously uncomfortable there. I use an Iris pen. Easy set up and take down. After she gets better (hopefully) the children can sit on the ground and feed her tiny bits of treats. No petting. Just look for the sign that when the children come around, she looks for the treat. At this time I would invest in a portable pen. Good luck.
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I don't yell or tell her no loudly and I don't punish her, I just have her sit or lay down (not sure if that's what you're calling punishment). I have read in several places, even on here giving a firm no and having them sit is ok. Also, my nephews are pre-teen (13-15) so they are careful with her, plus again the majority of the time she is fine with them. Yes she has her moments, she will growl a little and shrink back (she does it with my dad sometimes) but she has never bitten any of them. When she acts out I do have them leave her alone....... She has a pen, but I don't take it with me when I go to my parent's or my sisters houses. I could take the pen with me......she is fine at night when we all are sleep. However, she doesn't like being in there if she sees us moving about, she will whine and whimper to get, so not sure how well that will work.

I'm not saying she's a bad dog, so I'm not trying to just punish her but I do want to let her know somehow it's not ok to bite people. I understand dogs will act out or react if they don't feel safe, but her being this aggressive is something she recently started doing at least with my nephews and my sister.

Also, her behavior with my sister's dog, that is another major issue. Angel will walk around my sister's house but as soon as Lola comes around it's as if Angel thinks Lola is invading her territory but she's not it's actually Lola's.

I am just curious as to why she has started reacting in this way. I don't know if it's because she doesn't feel safe (nothing at any of there houses have changed) or she is just being a little mean. I can try taking the pen (just don't want the whining and whimpering to get to my family), but again not knowing what triggeredit in the first place, I don't know if once she is out of the pen if it will happen again.
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Just my opinion, but I don't think you need a vet. Also, I understand not being able to afford training. It sounds to me like she is resource guarding. Her resource is you. Also, this is something that would get worse the more attached she gets to you. Maybe google things you can do for resource guarding. I think a pen is a good idea. It gives her a safe place to be a part of what is going on without her space being invaded and the anxiety of having to defend it, and she can't guard you. As far as Lola, she wasn't guarding you, she's just saying I don't like other dogs, so sorry, they're just not for me! The other times were you close by? Lulu is a different dog if I'm holding her or she's in my lap than if she's across the room from me. BTW, Lulu doesn't like other dogs either. And isn't keen on most people who aren't our family, but I adore her more than life itself! I hope this work out! Good luck!
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I had not read your last post when I posted earlier. I have had to tell Lulu "No Ma'am" (I'm from the South) lol You can probably tell Lulu is not well socialized. I didn't know the importance of that when we got her. I don't think Angel is so much taking over her territory as she's just not a dog that likes other dogs, and to change that would require googling how to get your dog to be sociable with other dogs since training is cost prohibitive. You may never know what changed if anything to cause this. It could just be Angel getting older. She not being mean to be mean. Possibly even though it's unjustified, she's anxious or scared or more than likely as I said earlier she's resource guarding.
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I had not read your last post when I posted earlier. I have had to tell Lulu "No Ma'am" (I'm from the South) lol You can probably tell Lulu is not well socialized. I didn't know the importance of that when we got her. I don't think Angel is so much taking over her territory as she's just not a dog that likes other dogs, and to change that would require googling how to get your dog to be sociable with other dogs since training is cost prohibitive. You may never know what changed if anything to cause this. It could just be Angel getting older. She not being mean to be mean. Possibly even though it's unjustified, she's anxious or scared or more than likely as I said earlier she's resource guarding.
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I've read so many different things online so it's hard to know where to start (again). Lola is terrified of Angel and my hope is to get things to the point where she can at least go to my sister's house and not even bother Lola. They don't have to be best friends just just be nice. Plus, I hate that my nephews are a little scared of her and my other sister isn't comfortable being around her, right now. She can be sweet and quiet, and I know not being mean, just to be mean......I just want to try (if I can) to assure that whatever has triggered this doesn't happen again. I don't want her to be uninvited to my families houses (which I can't stop), I want it to be comfortable and safe for everyone.

As for her pen, like I mentioned before, she is fine sleeping in her pen when she sees/knows at least me son or myself are sleep or laying down, but if we are both up and moving about she is not happy being in there. So I'm working on that just in general. because as soon as we wake up, she is like get me out of here, lol!!
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I'd work at getting her used to being in the pen. Start by feeding her in there. Door shut when eating. Then open the pen and during the day throw some really tasty treats in there. Hopefully she won't see you put them in there. She would have to actually go in to find them. When you go to the relatives home, have people toss in some treats as they go by the pen. Eventually, hopefully you can open the door to the pen, and she would go in on her own, if fear is the issue. Resource guarding is a real possiblity and there are books about that. Try the library. It can be overcome, but takes work. Good luck, and don't give up!
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I'd work at getting her used to being in the pen. Start by feeding her in there. Door shut when eating. Then open the pen and during the day throw some really tasty treats in there. Hopefully she won't see you put them in there. She would have to actually go in to find them. When you go to the relatives home, have people toss in some treats as they go by the pen. Eventually, hopefully you can open the door to the pen, and she would go in on her own, if fear is the issue. Resource guarding is a real possiblity and there are books about that. Try the library. It can be overcome, but takes work. Good luck, and don't give up!
I have never heard of resource guarding I will definitely look that up. Also, I think you asked the question about when she is aggressive if she is always right there with me, no. With my nephews I was across the room at my parents house, but could still see her, so I wasn't near her. One of the times with my sister I was in my kitchen and Angel laying in her bed, but I wasn't near her then either. So she wasn't guarding me...... When something new comes up with her it just shows me how much work it is having a dog and how much I have yet to learn. We had dogs growing up 2, they were outdoor dogs (a big and small dog), and I don't recall them being a lot of work, but I guess there are many things that play into all of that.
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