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Old 11-22-2006, 07:34 PM
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Default First day of Crate training....please help!!

Hi there: So, to give a quick explanation......I adopted a 2.5 year old male chihuahua -- Geordie -- about 6 months ago. I was told he was paper trained but as soon as I got him he just seemed to not know how to use his pads and instead I would take him out for his potty breaks. When i was at work or during the night, he started peeing all over the house. He doesn't do #2 in the house....only #1.

Because of my work schedule, I've been just putting up with the peeing in the house. I'll clean in up but he always just uses another spot. I'm talking ALL over the house. There's no rhyme or reason to the spots he chooses.

I now have a two week period of time off of work during which time I decided to just go ahead and try crate training. He's a smart little guy so I figured he'd catch on even though he is grown. So today's our first day.

I fed him this morning and immediately put him in his comfy little crate that I outfitted with a sheepskin pad and his favorite blanket. He didn't fight me going in and seemd ok as I went in and out of the living room where I have placed the crate.

After an hour I came by and said "Do you want to go pee pee" (that's what I say when we go for walks). He got excited as he normally does so I took him into the bathroom where I've set out his wee wee pad (I'd like this spot to become his "potty") Well, he just sat there staring at me and didn't do anything. I stayed for about 5 minutes and then took him back to his crate. Left him in there another hour and again did the whole "Do you want to go pee pee" thing and again took him to his potty spot and he stared at me. This has now gone on 3 other times in the course of 4 hours.

I've tried to read all the threads on crate training here and I've googled it and I'm still not getting the info. I need. I guess my questions are:

Am I doing this correctly?
Am I harming him in not letting him relieve himself outside?
Has anyone else successfully paper trained an adult dog?

Any tips are very, very appreciated. Like I said above, I work a full day and we don't have access to a doggy door so I need to get him housetrained so that we can avoid all these "accidents" all over the house which are starting to really ruin our carpets and just make the whole house stink.

I feel bad that I wasn't able to crate train him from the beginning but I do love this little guy and did adopt him out of a bad situation so overall I hope I'm doing the right thing!!

Just worried that I'm doing this all wrong........... (
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Old 11-22-2006, 07:57 PM
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question: is he neutered?
if not, those "random" places to pee are actually him marking his territory and a neuter might help cut back the marking, if he is neutered find out how old he was, some males dont stop marking after they starte even after a neuter. others it takes some time.
he needs more out of crate time, when you let him out take him to his spot wait a few minutes if he does nothing play for a while, then return him to that spot. if he goes lots of praise, if not then return him to the crate...
i personally dont use a crate but feel that a crate shoudl be only used when the dog cant be watched 100% (like when your at work, night time, when your making dinner ect) the rest of the time he should be out and watched like a hawk keep him in a small area and have a squirt bottle on hand, if he pees somewhere hes not supposed to a squirt imediatly (before/during the pee not after) and put him where he shoudl be. praise if he goes.

but for the most part id say stick with it, just when you take him out of the crate let him have a good play/run aorund while hes out before going back in.
you also want to make his crate an awsome fun place, toys and treats in the crate will help. i realy like kongtoys as busy toys.
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Thanks for the words of encouragement. He is neutered and I believe he was neutered not long before I got him so I guess he was already over two years old.

Bad news for us though......right after posting my original question I went upstairs to shower and when I came down he'd gone pee in his crate on his bedding. I was VERY unhappy to see that!! I immediately took him out of the crate and took him upstairs to the bathroom and closed the door so that I could clean up he crate and told him "peepee here".

I washed his bedding and then came and got him out of the bathroom, took him downstairs and played for a bit, then fed him and put him back in the crate. He's in there right now and has been for about an hour now. I just took him out again right before starting to write this reply and told him to pee but he just stared. I guess I'm just going to keep taking him out every hour or so. He hasn't gone #2 all day either so I don't know......

I know this will take time but gosh, this REALLY is frustrating.
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I've heard of some dogs never adjusting to using pee pads. Since he was adopted he might have been disciplined harshly when he pottied inside which could be why he only does it when you're not around. I would work on the potty training by taking him outside every hour and praising him when he goes outside. Once he gets the idea that he's suppose to go outside he could be crated or baby-gated in a small area (somewhere without carpet is a good idea) when you're not home. Bellybands are also a good idea for when he can't be watched 100% in the house.
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How big is the crate? It should be big enough for your Chi to stand up and turn around, but not so big that he can pee at one end and lay at the other. I would stay consistent with the outside training just so he's relieving himself outside rather than in your house. Is there a non-carpeted place you could confine him to with his crate and pee pad when you are at work? How long is your work day? Our dogs can hold it pretty long, but they are usually not alone for more than 5-6hrs. Good luck. It can be very frustrating, but he'll get it.
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Well, his crate is rather larger than it should be. I realized that after doing some more research online so I decided to partition it off with some cardboard and fortunately it's working out in that he's confined to a much smaller area now. It's just enough room for him to stand up, turn around and lay down. Didn't have any more accidents. Got up several times in the night to take him to the potty but he never did go.

Yes, I'm going to think about putting him in the bathroom while I'm at work with his bed and the pads. My work day is about 8 hours in all.

I'm also going to start putting him on more of an eating schedule, which I hadn't done up to now. He's had his water and food set out all day and he grazes I guess. I feel sort of bad not letting him have water during the day but maybe I'm overestimaing how much water this little guy really does need.

I have walked him this morning outside and he did his business out there. My only goal is for him to pee inside on the pad so he won't have to hold it all day long. This really is frustrating.
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Something that helped my pup catch on, was when he peed on the floor, I would soak it up using one of his pads. He eventually got the hint that he was supposed to pee ON the pad, and when he did, I praised him like crazy and gave him treats.

The more he pees in the house, the harder it will be to break him of this habit. It's a good idea to confine him to a the bathroom or his crate when you can't watch him. My chi had a ton of accidents all over the house, and it was so hard to get him to stop peeing on the carpet.
Make sure you're cleaning up the accidents really well too- if he can smell it on the carpet, he'll continue peeing there.
We eventually got our carpet professionally cleaned in order to get the odor out. Since then he hasn't had one accident! *knock on wood*

Good luck! I know how frustrating it can be! I got Carl when he was 8 weeks old, and he wasn't completely potty-trained until he was over a year old...be patient and consistent- eventually he'll get the hang of it
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