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Old 11-29-2006, 07:39 PM
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Anyone know anything about this brand of dog food? I've heard of it before, usually in reference to their premade raw food, but they also have dry kibble, canned food, and dehydrated food. I was at a store today that sells it, and the people who worked there highly recommended the brand, saying that they would personally consider it the number one brand, but that it is at least in the top five dog foods. I know it looks pretty good, and I bought some of the raw formula to try, but I was just curious because I don't hear much about it on this forum. Is it really as good as they say? I know a lot of it really just comes down to personal preference and individual dogs. But I do think I'm going to start using their raw food as a supplement to my dogs' diets. I bought some today to try. Anyway, I was just curious how many had heard of this food and what they thought about it.
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Old 11-29-2006, 09:37 PM
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I use the frozen raw medallions. I LOVE them. And BlackJack is a picky eater and he will eat them quickly. Also, his poops have cut about half in size. He is a 3 pound dog and his poops were already small lol, but they are even smaller now.
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Old 11-29-2006, 10:30 PM
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Nature's Variety is a great food. It's actually one of the best you can buy. I wouldn't recommend their raw one though, the protein is way too high for a little chi. Also, I don't know why so many people think that smaller and less frequent poops are better, because they aren't :P Too small can be a sign of constipation, and that can lead to all sorts of problems. They are supposed to poo out the same volume they eat. If they aren't, it's not all coming out.
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I actually heard the opposite on the nutrition boards I frequent that if they poop too much they are not digesting enough of the good stuff. Thats why dogs on cheaper foods poop so much more, b/c they are filled with fillers and no good stuff. My vet said they shouldn't poop more then 3 times a day, which BlackJack does, 3 times and has no problems, doesn't strain, ect.

And the Nature's Variety Raw Medallions (chicken + Turkey) is only 28% protien.
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Well, I may be wrong, but I've personally come to the conclusion that higher protein may be the solution to my chi's anal gland issues. I've read that higher protein diets and/or raw diets can help resolve anal gland problems, so I'm hoping that adding this food to his diet will firm up his stools and help him empty his glands. It's true that it will also make his "presents" smaller, but I'm not sure whether this is a bad thing or not. I've read the same thing Deb has, about how when the stool is larger, it can mean the nutrients are just passing right through. There's so much conflicting information out there though, it's hard to know the truth. I swear for every time I read one thing, I read at least as many other things that state the opposite. I think all you can do is just learn for yourself what works and what doesn't.
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Yeah 2 or 3 times is perfect ^_^ Just some people seem to think one time is perfect for some reason. 28% is also perfect, I was referring to their other raw one, which is 42% ... way too much That much protein can cause sever kidney damage, and is only suitable for working dogs who actually need that much protein. A chi doesn't need that much, it'll go right to their kidneys because their body simply won't use it.

Regarding the size of the stool though, nutrients and vitamins do not take up space They are absorbed out of the food, which passes through after all the good stuff is sucked out of it. It should be roughly the same size as the volume they eat.
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Well, I may be wrong, but I've personally come to the conclusion that higher protein may be the solution to my chi's anal gland issues. I've read that higher protein diets and/or raw diets can help resolve anal gland problems, so I'm hoping that adding this food to his diet will firm up his stools and help him empty his glands. It's true that it will also make his "presents" smaller, but I'm not sure whether this is a bad thing or not. I've read the same thing Deb has, about how when the stool is larger, it can mean the nutrients are just passing right through. There's so much conflicting information out there though, it's hard to know the truth. I swear for every time I read one thing, I read at least as many other things that state the opposite. I think all you can do is just learn for yourself what works and what doesn't.

Here is a good article about protein. This lady does very very good research on dog food, her whole site is great!

http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index....e=protein_myth
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Old 11-30-2006, 10:58 PM
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Thanks Deb! I think I've run across that article before, but I'm glad you posted it. It's a good article and it was nice to refresh my memory. It really all comes down do quality. And variety too. I've never fed much canned food in the past because I always thought dry was better (until I started reading and changing my mind about that and a whole lot of other assumptions), but I've finally decided to start rotating more, with canned, dry, raw, etc, so there's more variety for my dogs. Learning is a never-ending process, but it's interesting at least.

And Krista, yeah, 42% protein would be a lot, lol! As far as the poop, I didn't phrase what I said very well, I just meant that the size and consistency of poop can be a good indicator of how well your dog is digesting its food, and there is an obvious difference between that of a high grain vs. premium diet. But I would assume that if the dog wasn't digesting its food very well, then it wouldn't be absorbing the nutrients as well either (whatever nutrients there are).
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