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Old 12-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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Hey everyone! I was hoping some of you guys could give me your opinions on my situation as I'm feeling a bit stressed and sad for my little puppy!
I got my puppy at 8 weeks on November 2. He weighed about 2 lbs give or take. Now at 12 weeks, he weighs about 3.1 lbs. When we got him from the breeder, I took him home and about a few hours after he had a hypoglycemic shock. I thought he was just scared at first until he had one again a few days later. I read a lot about chihuahuas before and while I've had him and I have got a lot of info from this board (thanks everyone!). The breeder didnt warn us about this until I called him to ask about it and he said that he had had one while there and gave him nutri-cal. Anyhow, I have been giving him the nutrical everyday and feeding him every few hours since I got him. However, he still has these shocks. They are random and not as frequent but I just dont understand. I am not working at the time, so thank god I am with him constantly for right now. I feel as if I can not leave the house ( and I am not complaining just nervous that something will come up that I have to put him in his crate and go somewhere for a bit) and the vet said that obviosuly I can just give him the nutrical before hand and make sure he eats. This is my problem, I have done this everyday and he still randomly will have these. For example, Today, I gave him the nutrical at 7am then again at 1130am and he had shock around 130 and he had eaten. So i feel as if I am doing everything I can, but unforunately it seems as if I am not and I just want him to be free of these and be able to run around more without me getting nervous. The longest he has gone witohut having one was a week. There have been times when certain things probably have triggered them but for the majority of the time, there werent any triggers. Now on to my problem... He had his shots and at his last visit the vet said to bring him in at 12 weeks for a rabies. ( I told her i would call her back, I am not giving him his rabies shot till 6 months or more. Obviously, I ve been talking to the vet very often and she examined him and what not. But am i being overly concerned and dramatic? Beacuase the vet doesnt seem to think its a very big deal. I know its common in small puppies but for ex., today when I called her, she just said its too early to tell. She never wants me to come in and always just says give him the nutrical. I can barely get him to eat. I try everyhting, boiled chicken and rice, everything. He does eat but Its a process. Does anyone have any suggestions. And Do you guys think I should get a new vet? People speak very highly of her. She doesnt take new clients. But, I just have a feeling that she doesnt care. When it first started happening, I had my bags packed ready to take him there, but she told me he would be okay and it was not necessary. I guess there is nothing they can do about it? Sorry for this long post, just wanted some of your guys opinions. And sorry if parts of this is confusing!
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Ok - when you say the puppy is having "shocks" can you describe exactly what is happening? I want to differentiate between hypoglycemia and seizures.

Your vet certainly doesn't sound very caring. I'd switch personally. Just throwing a bandaid over the problem and saying "give nutracal" isn't the answer I'd want. Especially if this is happening repeatedly.

I'm concerned because at 3.1 pounds, this is going to be a regular sized Chihuahua, not a tiny. He should weigh about 7 pounds full grown so I don't think he should be suffering from hypoglycemia regularly. Does he have a molera (soft spot) on his head? How big is it? This could be a neurological problem rather than just blood sugar.

When you are giving nutracal, are you following up with protein? nutracal is sugar. It causes the blood sugar to spike up, but then it will crash back down unless there are carbs and protein in the system to even it out. What kind of food are you feeding? If this is truly hypoglycemia, then I'd be doing anything and everything to get him to eat. Canned food, trying different brands, chicken (either raw or cooked), etc. You may have to hand feed and physically get the food into the mouth. Just leaving food out won't work for dogs prone to low blood sugar. (If that is what this is).

As for the rabies... I don't let my dogs get it until they are 6 months. It can cause reactions and you don't want little pups to get it. 12 weeks is way too young for the rabies shot in my opinion.

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Thank you for your help and reply
At first, I thought it was seizures, but after I had described it to the vet. She said it definately was not but maybe they could still be? Sometimes he will yelp first. He will flatten on the floor bringing his two front paws above his head and stretch out. His eyes dont seem very different nor do his gums. He sometimes will shake but very mildly if so. They last about 30 seconds to a few minutes. If i try to pick him up and put him on the floor, he sometimes will fall over. Today he was walking though while doing it. I have a glucose spray (from the vet) and nutrical and have been using the karo in the water.
I completely agree about his size. I dont know all there is to know but I thought the same thing. he is not small for his age. Hes prob. on the bigger side. He has been gaining weight normally, so I thought it was odd for this to still be happening.

I feel really stupid saying this. I have read about the molera and what not. But I can't tell. I tried to feel his head, right before his ears and what not, and I dont feel anything strange. Am I feeling in the right spot? What does it feel like, just soft? The vet had examined him and felt around his head but didnt say anything about the molera. She just said that "he doesnt look like Hydrocephalus would ever be a problem, as some chis are prone to it." I had a list of questions with me for the vet to answer, but of course I forgot to ask about the molera
I have been trying everything with the food. I am getting so frustrated (not in a bad way, I just feel bad for him). I've tried, royal canin which he somewhat likes, california natural, wellness canned, nutro and nutro max canned. I have tried mixing. I have tried boiled chicken with rice and broth. I have tried ground beef. He just hates the dog food. And some of my friends told me that I am making a picky eater out of him and I know that that is prob true but I just need him to eat. Do you think that I should forget about whether or not I'm making a picky eater out of him and just feed him whatever he will eat. One day when he literally WOULD not eat anything, i cut up a piece of a hot dog (small) and fed it to him. He seemd to really like it, but i am sure they are bad for them. Do you think I am at the point where i shouldnt worry if its good for him or not, just as long as he eats?
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Have you had blood work done. I would ask for a complete panel. If that is abnormal I would go on to get bile acid testing done to look for signs of liver disease, shunt or MVD. I totally agree with everything Tracy had to say. I would find a new vet as well. Zoey was and is a picky eater as well. I would keep trying a good canned food until you find one he will like and mix in his kibble. Please don't feel stupid asking questions. The molera will be right in the middle of the forehead above the eyes almost to the top of the head. It will be diamond shaped. You should be able to feal an indentation there, that would be the molera. Brodys mom and I both have had a struggle getting our little ones to eat anything when they were little. Please keep us posted.
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To me it sounds like epilepsy. What you described seeing is what I whitnessed in Cookie, the yelp, the stretch and shaking.

I'd seek out a different vet. Also could you record what happens on a phone or something?
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I agree with zoeys mom and maria. I think this sounds like more than just simple hypoglycemia. The yelping, the stretching out of the body, etc. sounds like seizures. I'd change vets, tell them what's happening in detail, and request liver function tests. (Bile acid test is the name one).

Right now I'd be concerned with getting a diagnosis. You can worry about getting him to eat better once you know what you are dealing with. Good luck and keep us posted.

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Here's a link on liver shunts. Your puppy may not have any/all of these symptoms but I still think its worth checking out.

http://www.vet.utk.edu/clinical/sacs/shunt/faq.php

If your pup does have a liver shunt, the diet needs to be LOW protein, not high protein as you would want to give for hypoglycemia. So I'd push for a diagnosis from a new vet and start with some testing to try and see what's going on.

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I agree it sounds like he is maybe having seizures.
I would switch vets, your vet doesn't sound very caring or concerned very much about his welfare. If I told my vets this was going on with any of my dogs I'm sure they would schedule them in ASAP for a full work-up.

I hope you can figure out what is going on with your wee one and get it sorted out. Good luck and keep us posted!
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