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Old 02-22-2010, 11:04 AM
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I have always had my dogs where no matter what I could handle them when they were eating even touching the food.

Today I give Jake his chicken thigh and stroking him was okay, however as I stroked his shoulder he leant into me, I gently pushed back and then he growled. I did smack him though not hard and said firmly "NO".

Three times he growled at me and three times he got told NO, then he was okay.

As I do not want him to turn into an aggressive dog at meal times what should I have done? I don't think just leaving him to eat till he is finished is a good idea as when he is older, say for some reason I need to move his food or something he could then give a nasty bite. Also if ever children are present I'd hate them to get hurt.

It is also a dominance thing so I do need to nip this in the bud.

He never did this until he started on raw chicken.

Any advice is appreciated

FORGOT TO MENTION:.. We just realised something, whenever my partner got up to do something Jake would walk away with his chicken we now realise this again was him guarding his food from us.. A sign of his dominance again over his food.


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Old 02-22-2010, 11:44 AM
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To make sure Darla was ok with me being near her food, i put bits of chicken in her bowl and also looked like i was eating it before i gave her it.
This way she sees me as top dog, i eat before she gets it sort of thing.
I can now put my hand in anytime i like and she is fine.
Maybe you could try that, this way he will see you touching his food as a good thing cause he gets yummies in it.
Any treat will do.

I still do the pretend eating thing before i put her bowl down and make her sit each time too before i give her it.
Hope this helps.
As you feed raw, then you could have a small snack of your own in your hand to eat before giving it, and make the mmmm sound, lol
Yes i do that too, haha!!
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Terri that is brilliant advice why didn't I think of that.. I will give it ago when I feed him this afternoon

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To make sure Darla was ok with me being near her food, i put bits of chicken in her bowl and also looked like i was eating it before i gave her it.
This way she sees me as top dog, i eat before she gets it sort of thing.
I can now put my hand in anytime i like and she is fine.
Maybe you could try that, this way he will see you touching his food as a good thing cause he gets yummies in it.
Any treat will do.

I still do the pretend eating thing before i put her bowl down and make her sit each time too before i give her it.
Hope this helps.
As you feed raw, then you could have a small snack of your own in your hand to eat before giving it, and make the mmmm sound, lol
Yes i do that too, haha!!

i agree with terri, we have 3 chis and this practice she has used works for us also. This was an issue with Jill when she was young but not anymore.

hope it works out,
Darla
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Old 02-22-2010, 12:29 PM
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Great! let us know how it goes.
Take the bowl away now and then too no matter what he has to say about it, after a while you shouldnt need to do that part, lol x
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When Rico has a really precious treat..raw bone or something...he has taken it ot his little area (his "base") and given that warning growl. I held on to him by the shoulders and gave a firm no. I have also taken the treat or food back..to show that it is all mine. He is fantastic now and we don't have any problems. The first few times he tried it he got told the message.

I also have him do something --usually sit---and wait for his food. He does see me as the one who is in control of all the goodies .

Deme--get in control of all the goodies !!

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He growled because raw is VERY HIGH VALUE. It's not like kibble thats like "so what". He's eating the good stuff now and he loves it. It's natural to want to protect it. This is called resource guarding. Some dogs resource guard their food. Some their people. It's a common thing dogs do with high value items.

You can "trade up" and I recommend you teach this. Get something super yummy that he LOVES. Then say his name in a happy way and offer the item as a trade for the meal. Then give the meal back once he eats the treat. If you do this a few times, he will realize you aren't taking away his raw meals and will relax.

He has just started this way of feeding. It's new to him. And it's obvious he loves it. You just have to modify the behavior a little by trading. It's no big deal.

Edited: Also Jake is a teenager. At this stage he will be pushing the boundaries on all kinds of things. Coming when called, other commands, even housetraining in some dogs. All a normal part of growing up. Just be a good leader he can trust and depend on and don't let him challenge or jockey into the alpha position and he should be fine. Things calm down once they are over a year old and grown.
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Pestering a dog while they are eating (and I know you were just petting him but in his head thats pestering) and then punishing his aggression only enforces his need to protect. Punishing a dog who shows food aggression almost always exacerbates the problem.
Tracy gave very good advice. Also, merely walking by and dropping tastier treats around his food, teaching him that you near his food = more yummy food. EVENTUALLY working up to being able to touch him while eating and take anything from him.
I also practice making my dogs wait for food. I make them back up, or go sit in a specific area, place the food down and give them the wait command. They can't just eat whenever they want even if the food is there they need to wait for me to ok it. I also wait till they are holding eye contact with me (or in cases where they are just TOO excited because its so yummy at least looking away from the food) before they are released.
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