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Seems like there has been a lot of talk lately about patellas.

Recently, I have noticed my 9 month baby girl favoring to not use her rear left leg when going down the stairs (at breakneck speeds), and occasionally when running outside.

I can't really find much concrete info. Otherwise, my little one doesn't seem bothered at all. Absolutely no indication of pain, but it does concern me that she elects to not use that food when bolting down the stairs about 75% of the time.

I read the following article, http://www.thewholedog.org/artPatella.html, which suggests that surgery is rarely the appropriate option.

But I don't know...obviously she will be taken to the vet to have it looked at, but I talked to the breeder and there's no known history of it in the dam or sire's generations and none of the other puppies from her litter or the dams other litters have had any indications.

I'd say I have observed this for at most a month but really only gave it a second thought today when I noticed her doing it while running on flat ground.

What are other signs of luxating patellas? What do I need to know. If surgery is necessary, that is fine and I can afford it, but as she is my darling baby, that is my absolute LAST option if I have any say at all.
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Old 03-23-2010, 02:14 AM
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Her favoring the leg is a sign of pain. Has the dog been evaluated by a vet? Do you know what grade her patellas are? You could take her in for an examination to get more info.

However, my pup was diagnosed with LP. Our vet says that we don't need to do surgery unless it's bothering her. Right now, it's not- no limping, favoring.

After Daisy got diagnosed, we started giving her joint care supplements. We just give them in place of a treat each day along with a multivitamin. She's almost two and we have managed to be totally symptom free so far. Oh, Daisy was diagnosed just before her 1st bday.

My MIL's Pom-Chi just had the LP surgery on her rear left leg. She is recovering well. Prior to the surgery, you could actually see her patella popping out of place. She doesn't favor the leg anymore so in this case I think it was a good decision. This dog will be 2 in October.
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Her favoring the leg is a sign of pain. Has the dog been evaluated by a vet? Do you know what grade her patellas are? You could take her in for an examination to get more info.

However, my pup was diagnosed with LP. Our vet says that we don't need to do surgery unless it's bothering her. Right now, it's not- no limping, favoring.

After Daisy got diagnosed, we started giving her joint care supplements. We just give them in place of a treat each day along with a multivitamin. She's almost two and we have managed to be totally symptom free so far. Oh, Daisy was diagnosed just before her 1st bday.

My MIL's Pom-Chi just had the LP surgery on her rear left leg. She is recovering well. Prior to the surgery, you could actually see her patella popping out of place. She doesn't favor the leg anymore so in this case I think it was a good decision. This dog will be 2 in October.

I guess I just want to know what's going on. She has a vet appointment in a week anyway for a heartworm test and I figure I will just take her in then.

I'm going to start both our chis on joint supplements anyway.

I can afford the surgery if it needs to happen, that certainly isn't the issue, I just am worried about my sweetheart.

My hubby is very wary of surgery for dogs. When his chi broke her leg as a pup, they wanted to charge him $2500 for surgery to fix it. Instead, he had a farm vet put it in a cast and to this day, its a bit mangled, but looks just fine. I know thats only one experience, but he wants me to explore all my options, if it really is LP.
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Quite often they will do like a skip when they walk to flick the leg back into place, other than that with Twig u could see sometimes when she stood that her knee had popped out and i think generally even when the knee wasnt out u could see that her leg was not as it should be. I was told by her orthopedic vet that most of the time its hereditary although it can be caused by injury i dont let mine jump up/down off furniture or go up/down stairs incase they injure themselves so probably in her case its hereditary .. i dont know her breeder wasnt interested in discussing it with me

As regards surgery..I think it depends on the individual case, Twig was diagnosed with PL at around 7/8 months at grade two and we managed fine she wasnt in pain and we started with joint suppliments for around 18 months when it deterorated and became apparent she was in pain and affecting her quality of life, so we decided to have the surgery 2 years post op and now she moves better than she ever did, not that we made the decision to have the surgery lightly, just for us it was really not an option in the end and certainly not an easy one...
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Quite often they will do like a skip when they walk to flick the leg back into place, other than that with Twig u could see sometimes when she stood that her knee had popped out and i think generally even when the knee wasnt out u could see that her leg was not as it should be. I was told by her orthopedic vet that most of the time its hereditary although it can be caused by injury i dont let mine jump up/down off furniture or go up/down stairs incase they injure themselves so probably in her case its hereditary .. i dont know her breeder wasnt interested in discussing it with me

As regards surgery..I think it depends on the individual case, Twig was diagnosed with PL at around 7/8 months at grade two and we managed fine she wasnt in pain and we started with joint suppliments for around 18 months when it deterorated and became apparent she was in pain and affecting her quality of life, so we decided to have the surgery 2 years post op and now she moves better than she ever did, not that we made the decision to have the surgery lightly, just for us it was really not an option in the end and certainly not an easy one...
I just hate the thought of putting her under anesthesia but I love her and will do whatever needs to be done.

I am going to take her to the vet sooner than next week...I am not sure, it looks like it may be a problem with her paw/foot. I can't really tell. It has been more pronounced in the past day. As much as she loves stairs lol, I am going to stop letting her bolt up and down them.

It makes me feel better to know your Twig did ok for awhile and then when you had surgery, it was effective. Hubby kind of thinks its silly expensive "for a dog" but he will support my decision if she requires surgery...just kinda hope its not for awhile!

Any recommendations for joint supplements?

The weather is getting nicer so I will start giving her gentle walks up slight inclines...I read that really helps. And may start crating her more often when I leave her. I know she just runs around like a little bonkers dog.
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We got our 3 yr old girl, Glory, a week ago and she was diagnosed with LP in both legs. Her left leg a grade 2 and her right leg a grade 3. We want to avoid surgery if at all possible too and started our girl on a glucosamine supplement called Glyco-Flex II soft chews for cats and small dogs. Glory loves the soft chews, she thinks they are a treat and gobbles them up. I do like that it comes in a soft chew form in addition to their tablet form since Glory tends to prefer soft food/treats over hard stuff which makes it easier to get her to take the Glucosamine. I am also mixing Nupro Silver with Joint Support in with her dinner daily to provide additional Glucosamine and Chondroitin. She's doing great so far. But your vet should be able to tell you upon examination if she has LP and what grade her leg(s) is/are at.
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Any recommendations for joint supplements?
I would recommend Flexadin suppliment which is the one I've seen best results with but im not sure of its availabilty outside the UK
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