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Fuzzmom 03-15-2009 05:43 AM

How can I tell if my pupy is showable or not?
 
Hi.. I don't have my puppy yet...still on Mom right now. They come from show lines..the father Would be showable if the breeder's health permitted but he's got alot going on so she just doesn't show anymore. The mo comes from show lines too but came from a home with bad owners..she came preg. ad the breeder took both parents and all papers. Mom will be fixed after this litter is born. I'm on the waiting list and will be able to pick up when they are ld enough. I've always wanted to show..my Yorki's coat jsut never worked out right and other than a few fun hows i've never been able to seriously do so. Soo...how can I tel if the pups are showable? It's hard to know when they're young. I will be going on temperament and pliability first and if it's not then no big deal but if it is then i'd loe to. What do I look for? Oh and can someone please define "saucy" for me embarassed smile/ Not too sure what that refers to. How terrierlike are these guys? I'm a terrier person and other than large breeds and a poodle or 2 this is my first forray Outside the terrier world as far as toys go. Thanks..will probably have more questions later after I get my baby.

Rosiesmum 03-15-2009 10:05 AM

If the breeder is reputable, she will be able to guide you on choice of show potential puppy. Be honest with her and tell her that this is what you are looking for :)
Hopefully she will be able to guide you in the show area too as you'll need to attend ringcraft I should think.

Good luck :)

Fuzzmom 03-17-2009 03:51 AM

Hi again. Where to find ringcraft? Most of the classes here are basic obedience classes...that won't let you kn till Fuzz is at least fou months old. I prefer to start training younger...what can I do at home? even if he or she isn't showable some of the show training is useful in other areas i'm sure. the breeder has a couple in mind for showables, but as that's not a Necessity she's not really worrying about which one is and which one isn't. Like i said she Has showable dogs..shehas shown Sme but she's not largescale and isn't att his time. It will Probably be a glossy coated instead of the longer fur..any special tools needed? I'm used to longcoats..Yorkies etc that take tons of grooming. Oh the breed standard thread was really well written and understandable. Thanks to whoever put that out there..it was themost understandable one I've come across so far.

Brodysmom 03-17-2009 04:02 AM

I would advise you to find a Chihuahua Club in your area. You can go to AKC.org and then go to member clubs and you will find a listing of Chi Clubs around the country. I'd find the closest one and talk to the people there. Get a list of reputable show breeders (or start attending shows) and talk to the people there.

To be honest... show "lines" may or may not produce show quality puppies. Dont' get me wrong, they may be lovely puppies and very representative of the breed, but still not close enough to the standard to earn their championship. Also, you can tell "some" what a puppy is going to look like as an adult at 6-8 weeks but it is a gamble. If you REALLY want to show, then you should buy an older puppy that you are going to be able to tell if it's going to be showable or not. Bites can go off, fronts and rears can go off, there's so much that can change with a baby puppy. The breeder would just pick the baby puppy they thought had the most potential, but it's really a gamble.

Also, have you shown before? I take it you haven't. In that case, you will probably have to co-own the dog if you want a bitch. The show quality girls are very precious and few and far between. They usually aren't sold to people who don't have any ring experience. Just because it takes so much time/effort/money to produce a good quality girl to show, so they want them to go to a home that is going to really campaign them. Obviously, there would be breeding stipulations in the contract, etc.

It's really quite a lot to get into. But if you are determined you want a Chi to show, then I'd go to the people that show them. Not to a breeder that has show dogs in her line. That would give you the best chance of getting what you want. Just my opinion. :)

Once you get her, you can find a local all-breed kennel club and get involved with the fun shows and the conformation training classes. Your puppy can be shown at 6 months. :)

Good luck!

Brodysmom

jesshan 03-17-2009 09:17 AM

That is so right Brodysmom. I know of 2 UK champions who have produced puppies which were NOT even open show standard.

Most breeders are able to say whether a puppy is showing potential right up to the minute they leave the breeder however a breeder can NEVER say that a puppy is show quality until it is an adult: correct mouth, stop, muzzle, earset, neck, lopline, tail carriage and if a dog - entire. This could all be OK at 8,10,12, 18 20 weeks old but by the time they reach adult, the mouth could have gone off, the muzzle grown on etc.

Remember this though....a show breeder is unlikely to sell you the best out of the litter. If they are selling the pick....why? You should still get a reasonably good puppy though.

Yoshismom 03-19-2009 12:28 AM

I agree, if this breeder only dabbled in showing it doesnt mean she has show puppies. In the Great Dane world we have hobby breeders that breed and are trying to show their dogs in the ring and it is just not happening for them. There are tons of breeders out there that claim their dogs are showable due to the color, etc... but unless they show themselves it is not likely. Breeder's will tell you anything to sale you a puppy. As said above there is no guarantee that a puppy will be of show quality even from a show breeder as they can change so much.

I think that "ringcraft" in the UK means handling class here in the States. Call your local All breed club and find out if they offer handling classes ;-)

Lyanne 04-15-2009 01:08 PM

Don't think I could add any more advice to this post as everything has been covered already. Please take care when choosing your puppy, regardless of whether you go on to show or not as there are so many unreputable breeders out there. Good luck and keep us updated x

jesshan 04-20-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoshismom (Post 471157)
I agree, if this breeder only dabbled in showing it doesnt mean she has show puppies. In the Great Dane world we have hobby breeders that breed and are trying to show their dogs in the ring and it is just not happening for them. There are tons of breeders out there that claim their dogs are showable due to the color, etc... but unless they show themselves it is not likely. Breeder's will tell you anything to sale you a puppy. As said above there is no guarantee that a puppy will be of show quality even from a show breeder as they can change so much.

I think that "ringcraft" in the UK means handling class here in the States. Call your local All breed club and find out if they offer handling classes ;-)


That is SO right! A lot of breeders will advertise their puppies as "Show quality" however no one can be certain they will make show standard. You should also remember than any puppy can be shown just as long as it is has a KC registration - this does not mean that they are up to the standard of major winnning.

Yes ringcraft is handling classes.


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