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Old 01-17-2011, 04:16 PM
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I have to respond to this and say that distance should NOT hold anyone back from using the stud dog that best complements their bitch. There have been great strides made in reproductive medicine in dogs and collecting semen and then overnighting it to the bitch's vet is being done on a regular basis. Artificial insemination has a pretty high success rate when the factors are favorable and you can accurately pinpoint the optimum time for fertilization. Using a dog just because he is local is very ill advised and a dis-service to the breed. A breeder should always look at the dog's total package. If he's in another state - there are ways to get a breeding accomplished. Sure it may be expensive, but breeding dogs the right way is never cheap.
you are right! I just never had to do that before and not sure if her breeder has ever done that either. she is two states away about 8 hrs one way. Cali's breeder isn't a show home though her dogs come from show breeders. It will be a while before I breed Cali even though I could I am changing for the better and want her to be a champion before I think about breeding her. She is my first show dog so I know we have a long road. If I wasn't to line breed I wasn't going to just put an ad out I do have a few show breeders I would go to and find a male that would improve and match well with her.
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I sound like I'm picking I'm not but you've had very strong opinions in this thread and it's te only ones I can pick apart as I disagree with a lot you have said and you've said loads about breeding to improve the breed etc and that as breeders you try to fix faults so can I ask why you've bred your smooth coat to which earlier in this thread you said was not to standard? I don't mean to sound rude but it just goes against everything else you've said about breeding so I'm quite interested [/QUOTE]

I would also like to find this out too! And you boy clearly has some jaw problem or very visible under bite witch is a sever fault to be breeding and will definitely not improve the breed.
I don't see how you can criticise mine and chloes dogs when they are winning in classes of 15 to 20 dogs.I didn't ask you opinion on them at all because to be quite frank its not valid, your smooth coat gets 1st out of 1. I have also just been informed that she doesn't have a point. Some one has checked![/QUOTE]

Don't tell the handler with the girl named "gordy" he wasn't there LOL or the others on Sat. I didn't know a long coat could be a smooth over night either. and yes I admit I didn't know that she had a point til I checked 2 weeks ago b'c AKC is slow putting it online didn't think there was enough enteries to make a difference. This is our 2nd show. how many have you done and how far have you gotten?
my boy had retained baby teeth on the bottom that wasn't taken out til last year not his fault and he isn't been shown.
Where did I say I think or thought either yours or chloe's dogs had faults or ugly? guess that's your opinion I was being honest about dogs in pictures I thought this was about learning??? didn't think this was a friend contest!!!

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Lol skeptical haha

So would we I think but triple a was calling it line breeding so I didn't want to confuse things?

Mother to son, father to daughter, brother to sister = in breeding

Cousins etc = line breeding
I know, this is the reason for the clarification. I thought maybe she had confused the definition of line breeding here?
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Wow, this is a fasinating subject. I never realized just how much goes into breeding. I've been toying with the thought of getting a show dog somewhere down the line and showing it. I have a question, though, would I be able to handle it in a ring with my pronounced limp or would it be better to get a handler?
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Wow, this is a fasinating subject. I never realized just how much goes into breeding. I've been toying with the thought of getting a show dog somewhere down the line and showing it. I have a question, though, would I be able to handle it in a ring with my pronounced limp or would it be better to get a handler?
If your limp didn't impact your dog's gait, it would be fine. I've seen people showing dogs in motorized wheelchairs. NOT often! But there's no rules that says you can't. Many don't because they want to be fair and not spook the other dogs in the ring, but if they are proofed well at handling class - they should be fine. When I was teaching conformation classes for our kennel club we had people walk by stacked dogs with umbrellas, snapping loud crinkly shower curtains in the vicinity of the line up, etc. There's lots of outdoor shows and these types of things occur. If your dog is a shrinking violet everytime an umbrella opens, it's not going to show well. This is part of show training. There's more to it than just standing on a table and allowing the judge to go over it and then a simple down and back.
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If your dog is a shrinking violet everytime an umbrella opens, it's not going to show well.
Hahaha, this is why I could never show Alfie! He's a shrinking violet at just about everything outside of our home.
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If your limp didn't impact your dog's gait, it would be fine. I've seen people showing dogs in motorized wheelchairs. NOT often! But there's no rules that says you can't. Many don't because they want to be fair and not spook the other dogs in the ring, but if they are proofed well at handling class - they should be fine. When I was teaching conformation classes for our kennel club we had people walk by stacked dogs with umbrellas, snapping loud crinkly shower curtains in the vicinity of the line up, etc. There's lots of outdoor shows and these types of things occur. If your dog is a shrinking violet everytime an umbrella opens, it's not going to show well. This is part of show training. There's more to it than just standing on a table and allowing the judge to go over it and then a simple down and back.
So true. I am lucky enough to have the little dog that thinks any loud noise is something to be excited about and go play. Someone dropped some big metal thing at his last show and while the other chis all jumped and shrank he immediately went into a play bow and started wiggling around like crazy??? Odd behaviour but hey, I'll take it! The judge actually laughed at him but he still only took Reserve...booo

Like Brodysmom said, as long as you can keep up w/ the dog and have the dog walk appropriately with a good gait despite your limp there is no reason why you shouldn't give it a try. I have seen all sorts of things in the few shows we've been at and I am sure I have a lot more to see LOL. No one can fault you personally for having a limp, but its just important that you can teach the dog to gait/stack in spite of it
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Wow, this is a fasinating subject. I never realized just how much goes into breeding. I've been toying with the thought of getting a show dog somewhere down the line and showing it. I have a question, though, would I be able to handle it in a ring with my pronounced limp or would it be better to get a handler?
I wanted to add, you already have lots of dogs and if you live in a populated area, you should find out if there are any companion shows there...it'd be a great opportunity to get your feet went and see how you do! Personally I think a lot of the fun is lost in a handler, but they definitely help out people who show and breed that have disabilities so its not a bad option either.
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