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Old 01-09-2014, 10:40 PM
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So, I kept Trixie, out of Leah and Rex's litter. She was the smallest and weakest of the pups, I had to struggle to get her to breathe. The litter was born September 18th, so Trixie is coming up on four months old. They were Leah's first litter.

I have a two fold problem, and they may or may not be related. One, Leah is VERY rough with Trixie when she plays with her. Rolls her over and over when they play outside, pins her down, grooms her until the pup has thin coat patches. I stop her when I see the rough stuff. Trixie is usually desperately trying to get to ME when this happens, because she knows I will protect her.

Leah is absolutely the top dog here, I have 3 intact males in the house and *nobody* challenges her. I do understand alpha females...and I have a crowd of henpecked boys.

So Leah is problem number one. I should add Leah always backs off when I tell her to, has never challenged me or any other human in any way shape or form.

Over the last two weeks, Trixie has started showing serious submission signs to me. Peeing a little when I call her over, cowering when she's never had any violence (aside from her mother) done to her. She sleeps with me every night. This sort of submission has come out of the blue, and I don't know why it started.

Could it be because her mother is ruling her with an iron paw? Or something I am doing or not doing? She doesn't do that with my husband, or strangers/visitors.

Appreciate any thoughts on this! And thanks!
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Old 01-10-2014, 03:32 AM
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Yes I think that Trixie is showing you the same submission that Leah is doing to her! I don't know what to say about the rough housing. Leah is over doing her 'top dog' position, I think.
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Me too, I've never seen Leah behave like this. I'll have to work out what to do with her.
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I don't know a whole lot about dogs, having litters, realationships, etc. But you mentioned that Trixie had a hard time breathing when born. She is probably fine, but maybe Leah sense's something wrong with her! Dogs are so in-tune with things that go right by us! Probably nothing wrong, but maybe worth a moment of thought!

Nine years ago, a cat had five kittens on the other side of fence in our yard. They were ferrel. To make a long story short. . .we ended up keeping the mother cat and one baby. I thought they were going to kill each other! I am not a cat person and was beside myself. Luckily after a while, they worked things out! Whew!

I realize this situation is different, but I'm going to say, that maybe you coming to Trixie's rescue is not a good thing. Maybe you are encouraging her submissive behavior.

I am sure someone else with more experience can advise you.

Hope everything works out!
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Is Trixie happy and confident the rest of the time? My two puppies are about the same age (born 1st Sep) and the female pup Bibi will also show appeasing gestures and leak a little urine, so i think this is the age these things begin. She is a happy little soul though, and generally more confident and outgoing than her brother, no-one bullies her and she loves to rough and tumble with her brother and the adult dogs.
Watch closely to see if Trixie is indicating to Leah that she wants the play sessions to end. If Leah continues to instigate play then step in at this point, and redirect Leahs attention to a toy etc.
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