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Old 01-17-2014, 04:55 PM
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has anyone had any luck with bark control products? i have 3 chis. a 6 year old, 3 year old and 10 month old. their barking is getting out of hand. we have to get them to calm down because the puppy now howls while the other two bark, which makes them go nuts!! i've been researching the citronella and the ultrasonic ones. i'm not comfortable with the shock/vibration ones and have read a lot of conflicting views on the citronella. i certainly don't want to cause them any harm or fear. i just want to be able to control them, and with 3, it's REALLY hard to get them to stop, as soon as i correct one with a hand clap and a stern "NO" the others bark. it's impossible for me to get all 3 to listen at once.
anyway, i'm just wondering if anyone tried and or been successful with these types of products. thanks
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You have to be real careful with bark collars. Sometimes, they'll go off for no reason, or for another noise that the dog makes (clinking against a door frame or kennel) or DIDN'T make (sometimes just random house noises) and the little *puff* of citronella comes out at the WRONG training time and begins to confuse the little ones. Besides, are you willing to have the little citronella collar casing on their little necks all the time? It's heavy and cumbersome, and with chihuahuas and their susceptibility to spine/neck problems, having one on all the time might hurt them, especially if they're home alone with them on... and when they're home alone you can't monitor when the little *puff* comes out, sometimes the *puff* comes out when ANOTHER dog near the dog is barking, and that can cause frustration. They ARE helpful in some extreme situations, however. I've seen them help many dogs at the daycare I worked at. I've also seen them subdue and make cowering dogs, too. It's all about the dog and the situation, but in all situations the dogs are smart, and know that the correction comes from the collar, and not you.

My suggestion is get a big ol' air horn. That way, you can be the loudest and at least get their attention, which is the start of training any behavior. Get their focus. I've never had issues with barking dogs, personally, since I teach them "quiet" at a very young age, but it would stand to reason that if you're the biggest and the loudest, you would no longer be competing for the "noise seniority" and you can at least GET THEIR ATTENTION. When they all begin to bark at stimuli say loudly "Quiet" and when they don't (because they won't) blow that air horn and say after (always in a happy but firm tone) "Quiet". Say it once. Mean it. Understandably, that will probably freak them all out, but it should at least give them pause. Then treat whoever quit barking and say "Good quiet!" (if they come up to you. They may run or hide but DON'T FEEL BAD FOR THEM! You want QUIET! It may even be as soon as the next 3 Chi Bark-A-Thon when all you have to do is pull out that airhorn and go "Quiet" and they get the picture. In that case, treat and praise and treat and praise!)

Just something to try. This method could also just inflame them further and cause more barking *shrug* Who knows? Training and having dogs is wonderful because no two (or three) are the same, and have different learning methods and personalities!

That's just one suggestion from me. I would also suggest you drain more energy as a pack together to reinforce your status and give them confidence to believe you when you ask them to do something that's difficult, like "Quiet" or "Wait"... when they are tired, and understand that YOUR affection and YOU are more fun and better than any stimuli, that's when they start responding their best!

Good luck!
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your reply is very helpful...i'm definitely NOT a fan of the big clunky collars, my dogs hate wearing their tiny rolled leather collars. the item i am most interested in trying is the petsafe ultrasonic egg. you put it in the room and when they bark it emits a sound they don't like. it's only $50 and maybe worth trying since one could essentially control all 3 dogs at once and it would be safe to leave on even if i'm not home. we've tried a squirt bottle, but the oldest dogs just barks at us more, making the other 2 follow suit. they do listen to me very well when they're separated, or when they're calm. it's just when they get to that heightened sense of crazy that there is no reasoning with them. there was a lady at my daughter's soccer game once that had this can of noisy bark deterrent that swore by it, so i might try that since i have no idea where to get an air horn. my 3 year old is an extremely anxious/unreasonable rescue dog so i'd worry that the loud noise might put him into some kind of psychological turmoil i can't get him out of.
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this is the thing i was describing, it's not super loud to humans, but it gets the dog's attention somehow. but it would obviously not work when you weren't home so not the greatest solution, but at least i wouldn't be home to hear them
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I would be extremely careful using any aversive methods with an anxious rescue dog. If he is barking due to genuine fear, loud noises etc could just scare him further and reinforce his original fear.
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Probably not a good idea, then, if you've got a super shy one in the bunch. Try the egg! Let us know how it goes!
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hehe, yeah...surprisingly the most high maintenance of them is the one that listens the best. he doesn't bark out of fear, or pain. he barks out of excitement and just to follow the others. when he's home alone and someone knocks, he doesn't make a sound. the oldest one barks the worst, the other two follow, the puppy howls, which drives the rescue nuts, so he tries to find somewhere to pee...i'm overwhelmed!!!
thanks for your opinions guys
i'll try the egg, it's out of stock so i'm waiting for petsmart to get one in.
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Yeah! Would love an update! I have many friends and clients who have the same issue!
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