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Old 02-03-2016, 05:50 PM
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Soo, I was all ready to make a potty praise board today, because as of yesterday evening and this morning, I can confirm that he now gets the phrase 'go potty' AND is willing to go twice on the same pad if I am in the shower etc. and cannot immediately change it!

butttt just a few minutes ago he did his first marking in our floor.
I was fixing my hair and he was playing with his ball, and all of a sudden he stopped real funny over top one of his favorite toys. I turned around to see what was going on and noticed his hind leg was lifted. He doesn't lift his leg to go potty, so I thought that was odd; he's lifted it once or twice before over the days when he stopped mid-step in sniffing something really interesting or hearing something really cool, so I wasn't that worried... but he was looking right at me in that funny way and when I got closer.... yep. There was a tiny puddle and his toy smelled like urine. :/

Is there any way to discourage marking, or do we just have to accept it as a thing they do? I kindof acted all disappointed but I didn't blatantly scold him... I know that scolding or even acting super disappointed is a big no-no with potty-training though, so I wanted to get some opinions on how to handle marking behavior. :/

I am ABSOLUTELY SURE it is marking and not going potty in the wrong spot.

I know he's not technically doing anything wrong, but it's also not good if we ever want to give him free roam in the home some day when we have our own place or a place without rented carpet....
thanks for the thoughts, guys! ;;



I know changes and insecurity are a big reason for marking, so I wanna list possible stuff here:
the thing is, we haven't made any. We had visitors a week ago which he did just fine with. I finally got the bath mat washed and was able to put it back after it had been gone for a week or so, so it could be that? but he didn't go on the bath mat.

No new people or new animals, and an area that he is insanely familiar with because it doubles as his bedroom when we can't hold him and his playroom and feeding room and he spends hours upon hours in it on Tuesdays and Thursdays when I'm at school.

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Old 02-04-2016, 12:19 AM
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His toy obviously smelt interesting, had it been taken outside or had another dog or unfamiliar human played with or touched it?
Mine are allowed to mark as much as they want outside, but know it is not allowed inside.
Occasionally i will find an object that is new to the house will get marked (usually a carrier bag) Dogs mark to cover an unfamiliar scent with their own.
Is he marking on walks?
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Nope. The toy has stayed right in that room.
We are renting in a carpeted apartment, so he is not allowed outside of the tiled kitchen / tiled bathroom unless he is on our bed, on his bed right beside us, in our lap, on a chair, or on a big comforter on the floor with us right nearby, etc. He had a preference for pottying on carpets at his old home and a tendency to go wherever was most convenient; we cannot use the rented carpet to check whether or not he still has said preference or is willing to run to his pottybox whenever he needs to go.

Initially he had a sort of portable 'room'-- a big bucket with room to sleep and play and lots of comfy blankets... when we were using that, we moved his toys around a lot for him to play with them in the bucket. He even slept in it right beside our bed. But this was before he was potty-trained, and he had so many messes in it even with proper potty opportunities, and it was so difficult to clean in our apartment tub that we cut it out of the equation; his toys have scarcely been moved from his playroom since. He has a particular toy which he usually plays with when he's sitting in our laps or on his dog bed beside us while we do random daily activities, so we usually don't get him other toys unless he seems disinterested in that one. Even then though, it goes from his room directly to his bed or our lap or our bed-- and usually if he is feeling particular about his toy we gather ALL of them to see which he wants, so they'd all have whatever the strange scent was.
We have never had another animal in the house... the longest visitor stay was two days, one night.... and no-one messed with his toys. That was also at least a week ago, and he has had ample play time with the toy since. We also haven't had contact with other animals that could have gotten anything on our clothes to rub off on his toys.

He has never displayed marking behaviors with us before, nor has he ever lifted his leg with urination-- not with us nor with his past owner. The past 'leg-liftings' were incidental, the same way a dog sometimes pauses with their front leg in the air-- it was not a peeing kind of leg-lift.



As I've said before, it has been too cold and snowy/rainy to walk him. We do not have any long indoor hallways that I could have taken him through either.
The weather is on the verge of clearing up and warming up, so I am checking it every day in anticipation for the first good day for walks. Until then, he has only been able to have long play sessions in his room-- which is thankfully plenty big to run around in.
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Does he go outside at all? I think you will see a lot of behavioural issues as well as marking if he is never allowed outside.
If it is cold you layer up the clothing , even put shoes on if you live in a severe climate, but dogs need exercise regardless of the weather. Even tiny dogs need to be walked every day. It is good for their mental well being as well as physical fitness.
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Does he go outside at all? I think you will see a lot of behavioural issues as well as marking if he is never allowed outside.
If it is cold you layer up the clothing , even put shoes on if you live in a severe climate, but dogs need exercise regardless of the weather. Even tiny dogs need to be walked every day. It is good for their mental well being as well as physical fitness.
I'm not an idiot. I'm well aware of this, but I am not going to drag him by the neck outside in 10 degree weather when /I/ am stinging from the cold despite my clothing and being 'bred' and raised in the environment. I'm not going to toss my chihuahua out in it who is neither bred nor raised in such a cold place and is obviously miserable and has no interest in walking.

It's not like I'm happy about it. I'd be more than happy to 'suffer' if I knew he was comfortable, but he's not no matter how much clothing we put on him. We'd have to layer him so much he couldn't even walk.

I layered him up and took him out when we first got him home and it was only mid 40's or low 50's and he just stood there staring at me with ears and tail tucked and shivering and whimpering and begging me to pick him up and take him back in. He's not going to want anything to do 30's on the best days, much less anything below that.

I run him in the house which is the only place we have right now. The only other alternative we have would be a community treadmill-- which raises all kinds of concerns, and wouldn't be any more stimulating ( probably less ) than playing in the home.

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I think WP was just making sure you were aware of the importance of getting him out of the house. Since we don't know you in person, sometimes we have to cover all the bases just in case!

I have been known to take my dog to Petsmart and other pet friendly places to walk around. It isn't outside, but it has lots of stimulating smells!


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I think WP was just making sure you were aware of the importance of getting him out of the house. Since we don't know you in person, sometimes we have to cover all the bases just in case!

I have been known to take my dog to Petsmart and other pet friendly places to walk around. It isn't outside, but it has lots of stimulating smells!


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Right, it's just that she's read many of my posts in the past and keeps ignoring various pieces of information-- like the fact that I'm a grown-*** adult, have had multiple animals in my care before, and the millions of times I have mentioned before that I cannot walk him in the current weather even with clothing. She also has taken nasty tones with me several times; it's possible that she can't help but take that tone-- but that's quite unfortunate for her if such is the case.
It's just slightly perturbing to have someone lecture me and tell me I'm taking bad care of my fur-child because I decided that dragging him around by the neck while he shivers and trembles and cries was not in his best interest.


I've also mentioned in past posts with her the exact details of just how bad the weather is, how Churro reacted to it when we tried to take him out in it with proper clothing, and I even covered all the options with exercising him indoors on the vicinity.


I can also assure that he has adjusted quite well-- that no new issues aside from a SINGLE isolated marking incident have occurred, and that we have been getting rid of a good many issues. He has not been showing signs of distress, frustration, 'neurotic' tendencies which develop when a pup is not getting enough stimulation, etc. and we have made massive progress for the few weeks he has been in our permanent care.

His spit-up issue has been with him since as long as we have known him at about 3 months old, and we have been working to pinpoint the issues since day 1 with him in our permanent care. A regular feeding schedule and good food to the best of our knowledge and research was the first step, research and the vet was the second. Since it has not stopped, this was the third step to get feedback from folks who have hands-on experience with the breed. So far he has not had any more issues, but as usual we have to wait a few days to see if it really has changed this time.


He also does not have any socializing issues. He has done great with strange dogs, friends, strangers in the store who wanted to pet him, strange and loud neighbors, and loud angry dogs outside the window, etc.

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There are literally hundreds of members on this forum, I don't necessarily remember you personally when I reply to your posts!
I certainly don't have time to research your previous posts before replying, so no, I am not aware that you are a 'grown *** adult' or what animals you have kept before. For all I know you could be a 12 year old who has never had a pet before.
You asked for advice, you got advice. You don't have to like it, you are free to take it or leave it. It is the exact same advice I would give to anyone else.
There is no nasty tone, and it is not a lecture. No-one has said you are taking bad care of your dog. if you don't want advice why are you posting on a forum asking for it?
If you have an issue with a post, PM the member to discuss it, instead of moaning about it and being rude.
I have a life too, and have taken time out of my day to help you.
At the end of the day if you want a dog that doesn't mark indoors you need to take it outside for exercise. No judgement, just a simple fact.
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