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Old 10-23-2017, 02:20 PM
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I need some expert advice here because we all gave up with one of our two Chihuahuas. I know it's been widely discussed and I've read a few other stories but I thought each case could be different so I post our story here.

We have a 2 year old female and a one year old male. We have trained both of them in the same way (crate and isolated room with newspapers). Our female baby quickly learned the lesson and only uses the papers. Of course we had a few situations when she would leave us a present in our younger son's room but we thought that mostly as a revenge which soon faded away anyway.

The male though is a totally different story. No matter how long we left him in the crate, he would always find the tiny "clean" spot just to avoid the papers. We just couldn't find a chance to reduce the newspapers area because he wouldn't go on the papers, just the clean floor. He is now one year old and he's walking in our house, raising his leg and pissing everything, from furniture to wallpaper. Sometimes in the morning he may leave his gifts in several places in the house.

To be honest, we gave up because we don't know any other method. We tried to shout at him, we tried positive reinforcement with treats when he does it properly but nothing seems to work. We ended up just cleaning after him and raising our voice at that time but he just learned to run and hide away. He doesn't seem to understand anything.

We see him so active and so happy but so stupid at the same time. It's the first time that we face such a problem with any dog and I believe that one year should be enough for the basics with some tolerance to accidents. However, what he does isn't accident but his own party of enjoyment.

Any help please???

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Old 10-23-2017, 04:08 PM
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First of all, is this dog neutered? If not, do it! The next thing to do is to get a pen so that this dog can be confined to something other than a small crate. I use the Iris pen with washable human grade pee pads. they come in 34x36. You can use clips or something to 'catch' his urine, if he raises his leg. Do you want him to go inside, or outside, or both? I assure you that this dog is NOT stupid. He has 'learned' to run and hide after his deed. He KNOWS that peeing in the house displeases you, but doesn't know what you want him to do. Keep this pup on a leash or in the pen when you can't watch him. Give the peeing a 'name'. Like go potty, or do your duty, or any other phrase you want. Take him to where you want him to go, and WAIT him out. Just walk around telling him the phrase over and over until he goes. This is easier when you know he has to go. When he does go, have a party. Praise like mad, and a few tiny treats. Good luck.
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Old 10-23-2017, 04:37 PM
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As I reread this post, it occurred to me that this dog may be afraid of newspapers? When/where did you get him? Some dogs are swatted with newspapers. Maybe he got sick on newspaper and associated it with that. Maybe he had diarrhea and pain and associated newspaper with that????

I had an Irish setter with ulcerative colitis who got so that she didn't want to go into the large space (ran the length of the house) that had pea gravel in it. I had to open up the yard for a while until she got over that spell. Poor dog. I finally found a food that controlled it.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:08 PM
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I was also thinking the problem may be he has an aversion to the papers for whatever reason. I would follow the advice of Susan Davis, and also switch substrates and see how he does.
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Old 10-24-2017, 12:55 AM
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The last option for me would be a male wrap. It may cause him to think about peeing everywhere. Obviously, take it off when you take him to his 'place' and follow the prompts with telling him to 'go potty' or whatever.
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Old 10-24-2017, 03:55 AM
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I have 3 males and they'd do the same thing if I were to let them run around the entire house. But their always either crated, in the backyard, or I keep an eye (very close) on when running around the house.
The backyard literally everything gets peed on. But it just is what it is at this point. And I'd rather have them doing it outside than inside.
But I really don't have much advice. Other than maybe leave him in a crate when you can't watch him.
Btw I don't think newspaper will be helpful or even puppy pads at this point since he pees with his leg up.
I've been wanting to try a male wrap (I have a dog who can't hold his urine as long as the others) but I haven't tried it yet. But that could definitely be worth a shot. Especially since you cleaning up pee constantly.
A family member has a male who's allowed to run the house. And he peed for a while. But she was very persistent with him. Taking him out constantly and cleaning with vinegar (to try to get the smell out) and eventually he did stop (he was even pooping inside) He does have his occasional "accident" but it's not as often anymore. But she stopped his behavior before a year old.
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