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Old 11-21-2013, 06:26 PM
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New Dog Breed Doesn't Lose Puppy Face: Photo : People.com

Imagine the ideal designer dog. It would be smart, healthy and hypoallergenic. It would have the yap bred out and longevity bred in. And, most important, it would never lose its puppy face.

Enter the "cava-poo-chon." The breed is the newest and latest in the decades-old search for the dog-face fountain of youth and perfect pet accessory. But the American Kennel Club does not recognize the new trend as an official breed, and one expert calls some specially bred small dogs expensive "gimmicks."

"There's always been a market for these forever-ish young dogs," said veteran trainer Steve Haynes (of Fidelio Dog Works Austin, Texas), who is working with 50 first-generation cava-poo-chons. "Until recently, specialized dogs like miniature Yorkies and miniature Maltese were the go-to dogs."

The cava-poo-chon is a Cavalier King Charles spaniel and bichon frisť mix bred with a miniature poodle. With the help of a geneticist and reproductive veterinarian, the tribrid or "triple cross" was created by Linda and Steve Rogers of Timshell Farm in Pine, Ariz.

With a price tag ranging from $2,000 to $3,500, the cava-poo-chon combines the best of the three breeds, Linda Rogers said. She added that there is no reason they can't live for 20 years. The dogs weigh 10 to 15 pounds on average, and the Rogerses offer a choice of color and two types of coat: curly or very curly, she said.

So far, 58 families have returned to get a second cava-poo-chon, and 12 of the dogs have been certified to work in nursing homes and hospitals as therapy dogs, Rogers said.

The popularity of the baby look for dogs started more than a half-century ago with mail-order teacup pups advertised in the backs of magazines. Yorkies, Maltese and Pomeranians were popular for a while, and recently there have been hybrid hounds "with cutesy names that end in '-oodle,' '-uddle' or '-poo' that come with thousand-dollar price tags," said author and certified animal behavior consultant Darlene Arden of Massachusetts.

Arden said she was unfamiliar with the cava-poo-chon, though she applauded the use of a geneticist.

But she condemned "gimmicks" that some breeders and groomers use to attract unwitting buyers.

"There is no such thing as a teacup anything," Arden said. "It is a market term used by backyard breeders and commercial breeders, so they can breed the smallest dogs that shouldn't be bred and sell them for a whole lot of money. These dogs usually end up having health problems, and most veterinarians don't want to touch them because the organs are so small."

The American Kennel Club does not recognize the cava-poo-chon.

"AKC does not recognize cross-bred or mixed breed dogs as official breeds," spokeswoman Lisa Peterson said. "These dogs are the product of two purebred parents of different breeds, resulting in a litter of mixed breed puppies, not a new breed, according to our requirements."
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I just read that in our paper ,it is adorable but I think people are fiddling with nature.In my day that was called a mongrel
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I have pretty strong opinions about all this hybrid business. You really have no idea what traits from each breed you are getting, that is just the way genetics are. No one can "carefully breed" together two different purebreds to make sure they only get the good parts of each breed. You will get a random 50/50 mix and there is no real telling what part you end up with. I think puggles (shudder the word) are a perfect example. Half of them are crazy hyper and the other half are lazy as bricks. Why would you ever choose a "breed" like that where you don't know if you are going to get a lap dog or a hunting hound? Also breeding regular muzzle length dogs with short muzzled dogs ends up with horrible tooth issues. I know because I have a now aging example of it in my own home and it is not pretty.

I think if you want to make a new breed, make a new breed. I don't see why you would keep breeding together purebred parents to end up with half and half offspring. It is just unpredictable and you are not contributing anything to dogs as a whole by doing it. Of course this gets fuzzy- because I hear that the labradoodle is turning into more of a real breed in Australia. It is my understanding in the case of those breeders that they are trying to make a stable, true to type breed out of it. They seem to be carefully putting in a poodle here or a lab there to get the mix they want and are going about it in a thoughtful way, just like a good breeder with a purebred dog. But in 99.99% of cases these breeders are just putting together two purebreds to get one generation of hybrids to sell. That just seems very wrong to me. The goal of a good breeder should not be just to sell puppies, but to improve the breed for generations to come, in my opinion.
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I don't have a problem with mixed breeds - were it not for people mixing and playing with dogs we wouldn't have any of the breeds we have today. I love my mutts and wouldn't trade either of them for the world! I definitely lucked out temperament wise, especially with Stella, as the JRT/chi mix could have some serious badness (granted, a lot of temperament issues are more training than genetic, but they do exist). Pure-breds are obviously no less likely to have health issues, and many of even the show dogs are being poorly bred for form over function, causing even more health issues - which is just as wrong as byb imo.

My issue is with the idiots who charge exuberant prices for these dogs, you know that they're not truly concerned with the health of the future generations, they just see $$$. It's sad and disgusting, imo. That's all I see in this article.
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We already have the answer, if you want small and cute forever, get a chi. hehe
I'm forever being asked if my almost 4 year old is a pup.
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This one paragraph just screams no to me

Imagine the ideal designer dog. It would be smart, healthy and hypoallergenic. It would have the yap bred out and longevity bred in. And, most important, it would never lose its puppy face.

It's all about who can have the best handbag dog, with no respect as to how the puppies health will be. Like Michelle said why fiddle with nature Not keen on this :/
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Silly people. I have a mixed breed, and love them, but 3000 dollar mixes is crazy.
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