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Old 11-04-2017, 05:18 AM
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I was walking to a family members house (2 houses away) with Jr and Sunshine both on leashes. My neighbor had her dog out. The dog sees us and comes running towards us. I start running with the dogs but we only had made it to the driveway and the dog got close to Jr. My only option (in the moment) was to pick up Jr so he wouldn't bite the dog. And a family member quickly picked up Sunshine. The neighbor quickly walked behind her dog calling her name and walked her back home. Me and the neighbor had a discussion I was trying to get her to understand that my dog will "fight" any dog that approaches even when the dog is friendly. She explained to me that the dog is very friendly and I can tell the dog "no" and she will back off.

I've known this dog since it was a puppy and it's a very friendly dog. Loves people and dogs so I know she meant no harm. But Jr will fight any dog regardless.
I'm trying to put my thoughts/feelings separate.
Should I not have allowed my dog to walk knowing he fights other dogs. Or the fact that she knows her dog bolts when it sees other dogs/people and doesn't keep it on a leash in the front yard?
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Old 11-04-2017, 11:13 AM
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You're both a little at fault here, tbh. Yes, her dog should be somewhat contained - for his own safety if nothing else. But by running away, you triggered his prey drive and encouraged him to follow you. Next time, try stopping and saying something like "no, go home" before he gets anywhere close to his border. Then calmly keep walking.

Try to keep everyone under their excitement threshold. You'll show your neighbor's dog his boundary, and show Jr that he doesn't have to fight, because you will protect him - which will make him less likely to feel the need to fight in future confrontations.
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Old 11-04-2017, 03:58 PM
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I agree that running away stimulates the 'prey' drive in animals. BUT saying that, you have to protect Jr from fighting. If this dog is 'free', that is wrong. Most areas of the country now have 'leash' laws. Maybe this neighbor needs a reminder? The other course, would be for you to let Jr warn this dog away! If she is so friendly, could you have told her in a stern voice, 'GO HOME'? At any rate, no harm was done, which is good. Take a deep breath, Ari!
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:19 PM
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I'm use to running (almost my instinct) because I once was with my dog and a much bigger dog came charging at us to get to him. I started running away and thanks to a chair no one got hurt.
Also another thing is that about 2 years ago I had Jr on a leash in the front yard. The same dog from the neighbor came into are yard. Jr starting barking like crazy and this small just laid down and scooted closer and closer toward Jr. I don't remember exactly what I was telling the dog but something along of the lines of "no/get away" I ended up picking up Jr and the dog stayed their until the neighbor called her.
I would feel really bad if Jr were to bite this innocent cute dog who is trying just to make friends but at the same time it's like she doesn't get the "message"
Now with that said if it were to happen again with the same dog I will try my best to very sternly say "no, go home"
My main priority is always for no dogs to get hurt especially when my dogs are the "fighters"
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Old 11-05-2017, 12:55 AM
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There is no reason you shouldn't be able to walk your dogs without being approached by loose dogs. The people whose defense is "my dog is friendly" add to the problem, as most dogs react "aggressively" out of fear. It doesn't matter to fearful dogs what the approaching dog's intentions are. I have called animal control on my neighbors, and threatened to more than I have. People should be responsible for their dogs.
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Old 11-05-2017, 01:12 AM
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The other thing you could do is to have a whistle/horn you could blow if this dog is at large and coming toward you. Scare her away? I agree with Reta though, and at least tell the neighbor that it really upsets you when her dog comes toward you when you have your dogs with you.
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I didn't mean to come off as "blamey" but was just saying what you could do in the future, since you can't control your neighbor or force them to keep their dog under control. All you can do is try to control the situation. I definitely would not stop walking Jr.

It sounds like, since this neighbor dog is not overly excited and respectfully asking for play from a smaller dog (crawling, though not listening to Jr's cues, is showing that he's willing to handicap himself in an "i'm not a threat" manner) this would be a great training situation to help socialize Jr to other dogs.

I would start by finding the "acceptable threshold" for both dogs (both before ND leaves his yard, and before Jr starts showing ANY signs of being uncomfortable, but preferably where Jr can see the other dog) and start treating every time he looks at the dog and then looks away. Remember that even one tiny chi-step closer can make a huge difference in comfort level, so big rewards for continuing to stay calm, and back up if he starts to show ANY discomfort. Short sessions; and at this point if you can avoid walking past that house, I would - just for training sake. If not then so be it, just try to keep everyone calm (especially yourself) and walk right by.
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Old 11-05-2017, 06:29 PM
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I don't think you came off as "blamey" I honestly just wanted other thoughts on this.
Although I'm not sure if its possible since the neighbor's dog always try to come near me when I have the dogs which isn't enough distance for Jr whatsoever even with treats. But with that said Jr has been doing really good with Jojo (my other dog) he can walk near him (not side by side of course) without barking/lunging at him. Which is "baby steps" but it's still now easier for me when we're in the backyard. I'm still working on Jr not barking at Buddy Bear (directly) when we pass by him.
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