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Old 03-17-2009, 09:04 PM
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Lately we have been having some problems with my boyfriend's german shorthaired pointer Leroy... if you have met a pointer you have to know in general they are normally very nutty.. but Leroy takes it to a whole new level lol. I babysit him a lot for my boyfriend so he doesn't have to sit in a crate but pretty soon with his actions it won't be possible if I can't get him under control

One of our major problems is his behavior around other dogs...he is uncontrolable. Here is an example.. during this video there was just one dog outside going to the bathroom. He does this neuortic barking as long as they are out there.. he gets very anxious and upset because he just wants to go play with the dog... but if I were to let him out to go see the dog (which I don't) he would jump all over them barking excitedly and accidentally hurt them or something.

This neuortic barking also occurs when I have him on leash and other dogs get really close by... if he can't get to them to meet them and say hello he does this... it is SOOOO embarrassing and not to mention he starts pulling very hard and almost rips my arm out of the socket lol...yes it is that bad... I have had to result to a head halter because I simply can not control him without it... i don't like the halter because it is just a temporary fix of the problem. Once time when I was attempting just to let him out to potty he pulled me so hard I slipped on ice and hit my head... and not to mention he got away and ran very close to the road .. he could have been killed and I could have been seriously injured...

Ok here is only a short glimpse as to what I deal with... he is way worse on a leash actually passing the dog..

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Old 03-17-2009, 09:11 PM
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How much exercise does Leroy get? I mean full out really hard so he is panting and exhausted exercise? I ask because I knew of a gal that had a border collie and his behavior was very similar. He was a working dog, as GSP's are, and he was just stir crazy and understimulated. Those dogs are SMART and BRED TO WORK all day. When they are housedogs, it can make them a little crazy. Her Border Collie would actually go in the bathroom and watch the faucet drip. Like obsessively. It was kind of sad. She finally got some advice to give him a job and got him involved in flyball and agility and he became a totally different dog.

I know that Leroy's behavior occurs around other dogs, but how is he just in the house? Is that behavior only around other dogs? Does he get out at least once a day and run his fool head off?! LOL! Sometimes I think that those hunting/working breeds have so much pent up energy that if they don't let it out, they can become destructive or obsessive. Unfortunately, that's why a lot of the hunting breeds end up in a tiny kennel in the corner of the backyard. Because their house manners are just not good and people don't understand their need for exercise of the body AND the mind.

Does Leroy get to hunt? Go swimming? That kind of thing? Our little Chi's are fine being rug rats all day but some dogs need a job. Just a thought.

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Old 03-17-2009, 09:19 PM
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This video was taken after a two hour outdoor offleash running session in the tennis courts

He doesn't hunt or swim - we were thinking about getting him into something, but it isn't possible if i can't control him first... if he is around other dogs he just does that so it would be hard to take him into a learning setting with other dogs... my dream would be to do dock jumping lol.

This past weekend I took Leroy to my friends and he played in the backyard with her Vizsla and her friend's German Shep mix for about 3 hours... I brought him inside and held him by his collar for about 2 mins just so that her dog could get situated to eat in his crate.. and he did this same behavior even though he was exhausted from running.

And yesterday I had him offleash in an enclosed area throwing a ball too him for about a solid hour...he was panting tired too lol and another lady brought her English Pointer over and asked to play... of course he did this behavior until the dog came over to him and continued on doing as they were playing for about the first 5 mins.
IT DRIVES ME INSANSEEEEEEEEEE... I just wanna control him when I watch him for my boyfriend.

As for his behavior in the house he is a normal pointer puppy- he can be naughty but nothing extremely bad...but bring another dog in the house and he is HORRIBLE.

Like right now he is exhausted sleeping on his bed because I exercised the crap out of him lol.. I love when I get that result - a tired Leroy is an EXTREMELY happy Cathryn.... but if another dog walked through the door it would be total chaos
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:26 PM
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I agree with Brody's mom, he needs exercise and lots of it. He needs to be completely tired out every day and once it accumulates he will settle down. Does he spend alot of time in a crate? Where is he kept when you are not Babbysittings for him? My neighbor had a GSP and he was a crazy guy who needed alot of exercise and play time. Maybe he could go to doggie day care a few times a week to play with other dogs.
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I guess I will try even more excercise- but I think that it my go a little deeper than that as well because he will do this even after being excercised for a solid 1-2 hrs. I just don't know how to address this behavior because it does happen no how much he ran or how tired he is.
*sigh*

Maybe I could think of a tricky game for him to play or something to keep that busy mind thinking and occupied... I dunnooooooooo somebody just magically make him stop lol
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What about doggie day care or the dog park, maybe if he is around other dogs enough he will stop barking at them. Do you scold him when he does this barking. Maybe you should tell him NO and then put him in his crate and completely ignore him for about 15 minutes hopefully once he finds out he will be crated and ignored he will stop. Good luck I know sometimes they can just drive you crazy. I wanted to say your Chloe is a beautiful dog.
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These dogs have an intense energy level, they are not dog that can be left in kennels indoors. Obedience training is very much recommended they need to be taught how to control themselves when they are not on the go.
Too much confinement can lead to barking and hyperactivity.
If he has spent too much time in his kennel it may take a lot more work then just exercise to stop the barking, but it will defiantly help.
Exercising is a huge job with these dogs.
My bother-in-law took his out on country roads and ran him for two hours, and I mean an all out run! He drove and the dog ran. On the weekend it was twice a day. He was still ready to play at all times. A walk around the block or playing with a ball is not enough in my option.
He actually sent him to a professional trainer for I think it was 2 months and
the guy was having so much trouble training him he kept him for another month.
It was over 1,200.00 in training.
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We do know how much exercise they need- he has been getting a lot of it too..We researched that before we got him and trust me we know how much he needs after having him for 4 months.

This problem occurs no matter how much exercise he gets...So I doubt it is single handley exercise to blame for this. Like I said before he does this after 2 hours of running hard.

I feel like if I were to scold him then put him in the crate when he does this he would associate bad with his crate so that probably isn't an option. And I have tried to just let him go to the dog and say hello-hoping that he would learn it isnt a big deal and as you said get used to the dog..but thats not the case he still throws these hissy fits.

Plus if I let him go to the dog after that behavior then I am rewarding it....maybe when he does this I should stop and turn around in the other direction until he calms down or something
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