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I started feeding raw a few weeks back. I have been feeding pre made natures menu and natural instinct but they get a chicken leg or wing etc about 2 times a week. What are the bad points of feeding like this instead of the prey model diet? Is this an okay diet or will I have to cut back on the pre made and add more meats etc from the butchers and supermarket??

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No, you are doing fine. You can switch to prey model if you want to, but most pre-mades are just fine. Miles ahead of kibble!

Cons to a pre-made:

You don't have control over the ingredients.

No dental benefits since it is ground.

Can be veggie/fruit heavy which acts as a filler, so they don't have as much protein/meat as they should. But if you are supplementing with extra meat, that should all balance out.

Can be bone heavy. But this does help to regulate stools in a dog new to raw.

Expensive. Prey model is much cheaper.

As time goes on and you get more comfortable with pre-mades, you could do a pre-made in the morning and then prey model in the evening (if you are feeding twice a day). That cuts the cost significantly.
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Tracy covered the cons pretty well.

However I would say that the list of cons will vary based on which pre-made raw diet you are looking at. No two are exactly alike for example, I am going to assume for the sake of this post you are referring to pre-made frozen raw diets?

I'd say the biggest cons to pre-made frozen raw would be high cost and the lack of dental cleaning ability since the bone is ground up.

They are still pretty darn good and make great alternatives to PMR, still a lot better than kibble or dehydrated raw. I've fed pre-made frozen raw before but it is so incredibly expensive that it's not something I could ever buy regularly. Good stuff and my dogs did well on it.
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I started feeding raw a few weeks back. I have been feeding pre made natures menu and natural instinct but they get a chicken leg or wing etc about 2 times a week. What are the bad points of feeding like this instead of the prey model diet? Is this an okay diet or will I have to cut back on the pre made and add more meats etc from the butchers and supermarket??
I completely forgot to address this, sorry! I believe the pre-made frozen raw diets are supposed to be complete diets, I'm not 100% positive on that so correct me if I am wrong on that point. If they are complete then you shouldn't need to add anything but of course you can and should add other meats with and without bone for variety. Again with complete diets though it is not a necessity. Sounds like you have a good plan and of course it would be great if you incorporate other add ins when you can. Raw feeding is great and you're off to a great start and taking your time in supplementing the pre-made raw is a great step.
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I completely forgot to address this, sorry! I believe the pre-made frozen raw diets are supposed to be complete diets, I'm not 100% positive on that so correct me if I am wrong on that point. If they are complete then you shouldn't need to add anything but of course you can and should add other meats with and without bone for variety. Again with complete diets though it is not a necessity. Sounds like you have a good plan and of course it would be great if you incorporate other add ins when you can. Raw feeding is great and you're off to a great start and taking your time in supplementing the pre-made raw is a great step.
Great post Val! I was also assuming this was a pre-made frozen raw.

If you can get some ZiwiPeak, it is also a great alternative to kibble and is classified as a dehydrated raw, I believe. It is one of the best foods you could feed and I highly recommend. Super easy as it comes in a bag and is small jerky squares so very easily portable for traveling, boarding, etc.
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I would think the only pro to pre made would be convenience for me, but that would be it. If money isn't and issue and your also doing prey model it seems fine. I don't do prey because for me I would have to sit and watch my 2 tiny girls since I would be soo worried they would choke on a bone. I even make their ziwipeak smaller because even that size seems a little large for them. They both have such skinny tiny necks lol! Maybe it wouldn't make a difference, maybe it's just a worrisome mom lol!!

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I would think the only pro to pre made would be convenience for me, but that would be it. If money isn't and issue and your also doing prey model it seems fine. I don't do prey because for me I would have to sit and watch my 2 tiny girls since I would be soo worried they would choke on a bone. I even make their ziwipeak smaller because even that size seems a little large for them. They both have such skinny tiny necks lol! Maybe it wouldn't make a difference, maybe it's just a worrisome mom lol!!

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My sisters beagle chokes on kibble at every meal. She just inhales it without chewing at all! Crazy! I keep telling her to offer a frozen chicken breast, something she would have to slow down and actually chew! But she's not on the raw bandwagon yet and that's OK. I just hate to watch her dog eat. The bowl is completely empty in about 20 seconds. I've never seen anything like it.

You are a devoted mama to cut up the ziwi into smaller pieces. LOL!
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Hee hee.... I just use a cleaver to chop it up. What's funny is they are very sslow eaters, but still can choke if to big. I would think if anyone would choke it would be willow lol. But she does fine.


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My sisters beagle chokes on kibble at every meal. She just inhales it without chewing at all! Crazy! I keep telling her to offer a frozen chicken breast, something she would have to slow down and actually chew! But she's not on the raw bandwagon yet and that's OK. I just hate to watch her dog eat. The bowl is completely empty in about 20 seconds. I've never seen anything like it.

You are a devoted mama to cut up the ziwi into smaller pieces. LOL!
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