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Old 02-18-2011, 10:17 PM
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So right now my girls are on Wellness 5 Core Puppy food and Ziwi Peak (for lunch). They both like the kibble, but I don't want to keep them on it. I want them on a 5 star. Bella loves the Ziwi, and Izzie eats it, but not near as much as she should.

When we had Nature's Variety, she LOVED it. Gobbled that stuff down. I can get it locally. I stopped feeding that because if each of them have to have 3/4 medallions each a day, that stuff is WAY too expensive. Someone told me that is way too much for them and that the directions on the back are always more food then you should give them. If they don't have to have 3 medallions a day each, I think we can afford it!

Or, I was thinking about THK. I would have to buy it online, but since it's dehydrated and not frozen, it's okay to buy online. It just seems like it has a lot things they don't need in it. I know that NV is 95% Meat, Organs, and Bones, and 5% Fruits and Veggies.

I really like the pre made raw, and I want to get the most for my money. Can someone who is experienced in one or both of the foods help me figure out how much my pups should eat of it, and when one would be cheapest? We are hoping to purchase in the next week. I'll prolly mix a lil Ziwi in too.

Oh, and I thought about Stella and Chewy's.. but we can only get the freeze dried locally, not the patties, so that's out.

Bella is 3 lbs 15 oz and Izzie is 2 lbs 2 oz.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:13 PM
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So right now my girls are on Wellness 5 Core Puppy food and Ziwi Peak (for lunch). They both like the kibble, but I don't want to keep them on it. I want them on a 5 star. Bella loves the Ziwi, and Izzie eats it, but not near as much as she should.

When we had Nature's Variety, she LOVED it. Gobbled that stuff down. I can get it locally. I stopped feeding that because if each of them have to have 3/4 medallions each a day, that stuff is WAY too expensive. Someone told me that is way too much for them and that the directions on the back are always more food then you should give them. If they don't have to have 3 medallions a day each, I think we can afford it!

Or, I was thinking about THK. I would have to buy it online, but since it's dehydrated and not frozen, it's okay to buy online. It just seems like it has a lot things they don't need in it. I know that NV is 95% Meat, Organs, and Bones, and 5% Fruits and Veggies.

I really like the pre made raw, and I want to get the most for my money. Can someone who is experienced in one or both of the foods help me figure out how much my pups should eat of it, and when one would be cheapest? We are hoping to purchase in the next week. I'll prolly mix a lil Ziwi in too.

Oh, and I thought about Stella and Chewy's.. but we can only get the freeze dried locally, not the patties, so that's out.

Bella is 3 lbs 15 oz and Izzie is 2 lbs 2 oz.
I've recently done quite a bit of thinking over food for the pups so i'll deposit my $0.02.

I feed THK and I have since November. Both of mine were having coat issues and while not completely fixed, Godric is still thinning a bit but Gretel has the softest coat of her life and other than a little bit with the weather her shedding has all but stopped.

Gretel has always had rancid breath and while not fixed, she's much better and I believe it's because of the kibble she was on before causing tartar etc.

That said, I really do like THK but it does leave something to be desired. I tried them on Keen first, then Thrive, and I just ordered Force. I'm having a hard time keeping weight on Godric, but he's also growing like a weed so I do give him 1/2C. daily, usually a heaping scoop.

I think the conclusion i've come to is that i'm going to keep them on THK as their base, and supplement in as I see fit with things like raw, and the freeze dried S&C. It's affordable and while some formulas are better than others I believe that with a little supplement it's adequate for my pups.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:32 PM
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I haven't fed THK so can't advise you there. But I can chime in on the NV!

Is Natures Variety the only pre-made frozen raw you can get? Can you get Bravo or Primal? I like to rotate through the different ones. You can use Stella and Chewy's freeze dried also. Just crumble the patty and add a few teaspoons of warm water. It turns into a canned food consistency.

Ok, I have a bag of NV chicken in front of me. There are 48 medallions per 3 pound bag. So that means each medallion is exactly one ounce. When I use this as a meal for Brody, he gets ONE medallion. He is a 2 year old adult and weighs 5 pounds.

A puppy should get 2-3% of it's projected adult weight. So if you are expecting Bella to be 8 pounds and Izzy to be 5 pounds as adults, then Bella would require about 4 medallions a day - 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening if that's all you fed. Izzy would get 2.5 medallions a day or one in the morning and 1.5 medallions in the evening.

So by these calculations, assuming this was the proper amount for them and they weren't too thin or too heavy - one bag would last about a week.

If that stretches your budget too thin, you could do one meal of the NV medallions and the other meal could be chicken breast. Or you could get leg quarters on sale (no sodium added, keep the sodium at 100mg or less per 4 ounce serving) and cut the meat off or let them chew the ends of the bones that have the cartilage and then take the bone away. They would get some good chewing action that way for teeth and recreation. (I wouldn't let them eat a leg or thigh bone though, as that would be way too much bone, but chewing on one, especially the knobby ends, would be fine).

Eventually I'd like to see you adding in more red meats either through the NV flavors or by adding in some red meat in place of a meal. This would come later though.

To my thinking... doing one meal of the NV patties which are complete and balanced and then doing at least a few meals at least per week of fresh meats would stretch your budget and be a good compromise! There is enough bone in the NV to keep their stools regulated, but you could also adjust as needed by using bone-in meats along the way.

Hope I haven't confused your issue!!
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DH just found another store in our area that sells Bravo Raw, they also say on their site they can usually order if they don't have the brand we want. Yeah, if the NV lasted us about 2 weeks for both my pups, that'd be okay... But buying 4 bags a month is a bit much. Doing chicken would work. We are getting our tax refund next weekend so I was planning on stocking up on their food a little, so I'm wanting to find something that'll work, but is not super spendy.

I wanna know more about THK, since a $40 4 lb box turns into 17 lbs. I don't know how much they'll need of that and how long it would last them.
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DH just found another store in our area that sells Bravo Raw, they also say on their site they can usually order if they don't have the brand we want. Yeah, if the NV lasted us about 2 weeks for both my pups, that'd be okay... But buying 4 bags a month is a bit much. Doing chicken would work. We are getting our tax refund next weekend so I was planning on stocking up on their food a little, so I'm wanting to find something that'll work, but is not super spendy.

I wanna know more about THK, since a $40 4 lb box turns into 17 lbs. I don't know how much they'll need of that and how long it would last them.
I feed a 10lb box to two chi's and it lasts a bit over 2 months.

It's cheaper to buy the 10lbs I think, I pay between 50-70 (with shipping) depending on the flavor and I feed a total of 1cup daily between the two - 1/4c at each meal.

Gretel is adult at just under 6lbs and Godric is behemoth, i'm not sure his exact weight but he's close to 8lbs.
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My girls would have to have like double that right? Since they are puppies?
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My girls would have to have like double that right? Since they are puppies?
I don't believe double that no, in December that would have made Godric 6 months old and I was still feeding him 1/2c daily.

He is a wee bit on the thin side, but he's healthy and active and he eats well, I switched him to the higher protein thrive and he "beefed" up a bit.

If you were worried and looking to save a bit, you could always supplement THK with things like egg, and chicken and there are other alternatives as well.

I primarily started THK because Godric is downright intolerant to any form of kibble, it tears his stomach to bits. It's not a wonder food, but I do think it's a good starting point and this week i'm actually beginning to integrate raw into their diet along with THK.
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You could always do a combination of THK, Bravo or NV pre-made, ZiwiPeak, and some fresh raw meats as well. To me, that would be the best of all worlds!
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