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Old 11-28-2011, 01:21 AM
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For the times it's inconvenient or I am not able to feed prey model raw, I want to feed Ziwipeak. But I read that Ziwipeak doesn't give the same benefits of cleaning teeth as prey model raw does.

Would adding bully sticks take care of the teeth cleaning part or would I have to start brushing my chi's teeth? Any advice?
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ZiwiPeak sells some antler chews that are really great for cleaning teeth. I like the ZP brand because they cut them longwise, exposing the marrow, which provides really nice scrubbing action. There are other brands of antlers out there though if you look around.

Aside from that.. I use Leba III spay. I can honestly swear by this product even though it's pricey (about $50 per bottle, but I've only bought it once and it's lasted me about a year). It's an enzyme spray that dissolves plaque. You just spray it in the dog's mouth (anywhere it can mix with saliva is fine, it doesn't need to be directly on the teeth) without any food or water 30 minutes before or after. Twice a day for getting rid of plaque, and once a day for maintenance. The dark plaque on Teddy's teeth softened after a few days of using Leba III into this REALLY foul-smelling, soft goo that could be easily scraped off with a fingernail or a toothbrush. I got into the habit of spraying him once in the morning, waiting 30 minutes, brushing his teeth with a toothbrush and warm water, and then spraying him again in the evening. After I brushed the yellow goo off, his breath smelled so much better and his teeth were nice and white.

I wish I had a before picture but here's how they looked after using the Leba III for a while:



But I highly recommend brushing your chi's teeth alongside any chews you can provide, even if it's just with a soft-bristle children's toothbrush and warm water. Adding in the Leba III would give you much better results though, obviously. And like I said, you can't go wrong with antler chews. They last for a very long time too.
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Kaila has good advice. Anything that they spend time really gnawing on will help with dental health. Brody really gnaws hard and scrubs his teeth with bully sticks. Some dogs just eat them. It depends on the dog.

I also use and recommend Petzlife. I would guess this product is similar to the one Kaila uses. I also brush Brody's teeth with the Petzlife gel. Our breed has VERY poor teeth, so anything you can do to keep them is recommended. Raw meaty bones, bully sticks and/or antlers or other chews, and brushing teeth with an enzyme cleaner such as Petzlife.
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Oh my, I was under the impression that if you feed raw with bones you don't have to brush their teeth anymore!! I don't know where I got that from! Good thing I asked!! Thank you Kaila and Tracy! As always you both give me great advice!!

Should I brush my chi's teeth twice a day? She's 12 weeks old when she comes home.
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I only brush once a day. The Leba is enough to keep them clean most of the time, and he plays with antlers and bully sticks throughout the day. Glad I could help!

EDIT: But I imagine twice a day would be better, provided your chi puts up with it. In the very beginning I actually gave treats as a reward for Teddy letting me handle his mouth and use a toothbrush on him, even if it was counterproductive to good oral health. Now he doesn't LOVE it, but he tolerates it..
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Oh my, I was under the impression that if you feed raw with bones you don't have to brush their teeth anymore!! I don't know where I got that from! Good thing I asked!! Thank you Kaila and Tracy! As always you both give me great advice!!

Should I brush my chi's teeth twice a day? She's 12 weeks old when she comes home.
Raw won't contribute to plaque build up as much as kibble does, but it would still benefit your dog if you brushed their teeth

I have never tried the sprays such as PetzLife, but I would like to. My dogs are holy terrors when it comes to teeth brushing time so it is something I need to work on. I would recommend starting as early as possible and brushing her teeth daily to get her used to it. It is a lot harder when they are older.

My dogs chew on Himalayan chews (hard cheese that takes them a LONG time to work soften) bully sticks, and occasionally Nylabones. I don't brush their teeth that often (I really should start doing it daily) but neither of them have build up. They get raw bone meals such as pork ribs or chicken wings 3 times a week.
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Brody gets a thorough tooth brushing a couple times a week. He has no build up or tartar at all and he's over 3 years old now. But I want to keep it that way so I will continue the teeth brushing. It also gives me the opportunity for a full mouth check and to look at each tooth and make sure there is no build up, cracking, staining or other problems. Just feeding raw isn't usually enough to completely prevent build up. It helps! Sure! But you still have to keep a close eye on things and be ready to intervene when necessary.
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My dogs chew on Himalayan chews (hard cheese that takes them a LONG time to work soften) bully sticks, and occasionally Nylabones. I don't brush their teeth that often (I really should start doing it daily) but neither of them have build up. They get raw bone meals such as pork ribs or chicken wings 3 times a week.
I bought Himalayan chews for Teddy for he doesn't seem all that thrilled with them, lol! My JRT loved them, though. Depends on the dog.

I used to give Teddy Nylabones until I heard that they're made in China and can contain melamine. And I kept watching his swallow tiny bits of plastic which I wasn't sure was good for him.
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