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Old 08-13-2013, 04:53 PM
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Ok as you both know I do not feed raw but try to get as close to raw as possible. Well the other day Stella and I were chatting on how you might be allergic to a protein but with it being raw you might not be along with wild vs domesticated (Huly is allergic to Beef so is he allergic to Bison). Well I kind of screwed up but now it has me asking more questions. I bought some of the new Orijen treats with Huly in mind (he eats dog stuff all the time as he thinks he is a dog). I bought the Duck and the Tundra. I wanted to start with the Duck as I know he likes Duck but I opened the wrong bag and for the last 10 days been giving him the Tundra. Elk and Quail are approved but I did not realize it had Trout in it and he is allergic to fish. Well in the last 10 days he has not gotten sick. Wild Alaskian can salmon made him vomit within 48 hours, and he is also not showing any allergy sinus symptoms. He loves this stuff so now I am questioning do I still let him have some or no? Because it is freeze dried raw could that be the difference? Thoughts?

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Well if 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating' Huly has just proved he can tolerate trout. That is brilliant news. I am fairly certain it is because it is raw, the proteins in the allergy tests are always cooked. I have heard time and time again how dogs are allergic to x protein and have to eat 'special' (usually very expensive lol) kibble, but are perfectly fine eating the exact same protein when fed raw. If Huly was mine i would definitely experiment with the raw form of his known allergens. It doesn't specify trout on his report, so it could be that he was never allergic to it in the first place. (Although that seems unlikely if he is allergic to all fish/seafood.)
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Well if 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating' Huly has just proved he can tolerate trout. That is brilliant news. I am fairly certain it is because it is raw, the proteins in the allergy tests are always cooked. I have heard time and time again how dogs are allergic to x protein and have to eat 'special' (usually very expensive lol) kibble, but are perfectly fine eating the exact same protein when fed raw. If Huly was mine i would definitely experiment with the raw form of his known allergens. It doesn't specify trout on his report, so it could be that he was never allergic to it in the first place. (Although that seems unlikely if he is allergic to all fish/seafood.)
It is just weird that you and I were just talking about this then I screw up without realizing it. I am going to try small things with him and see how he does and talk to Kim his nutrionist. She has been trying to get me to go full raw for awhile.
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I am just thrilled you have found another thing he can eat. I really want to try the new freeze dried Orijen as training treats for Delilah but I don't think it's available in the UK yet.
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I am just thrilled you have found another thing he can eat. I really want to try the new freeze dried Orijen as training treats for Delilah but I don't think it's available in the UK yet.
I am excited but honestly still a little scared.

My crew goes nuts for them! So far the chis have had the Bison (too scared to try Huly and this was before this situation), Tundra (is now on the menu), and next up is Duck. I can grab you a bag and mail them to you. Just let me know what kind you want to try. Shipping couldn't be that high and I want to say it is $7.50 USD for a bag.
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I'm late to the party as usual, but I agree with Stella. The cooked proteins are what those allergy tests key off of. Not the raw protein. There is a difference and I have seen it over and over... a dog is allergic to beef. But NOT raw beef. Can't explain it, but I know it happens. I would just continue. No reaction for the last 10 days? Shoot, you should be home free. Enjoy. And don't be scared to try new proteins. You can always back off if it is a problem. You won't know until you try. And wouldn't it be great to expand the menu.
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I'm late to the party as usual, but I agree with Stella. The cooked proteins are what those allergy tests key off of. Not the raw protein. There is a difference and I have seen it over and over... a dog is allergic to beef. But NOT raw beef. Can't explain it, but I know it happens. I would just continue. No reaction for the last 10 days? Shoot, you should be home free. Enjoy. And don't be scared to try new proteins. You can always back off if it is a problem. You won't know until you try. And wouldn't it be great to expand the menu.
Thank you! I knew you would enjoy my "screw up" too as it proves everything you have been saying on here
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