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Old 07-09-2014, 07:46 PM
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I'm on raw information overload. I have been reading so much I don't know if I'm starting raw right.
Kaiser is 12-ish wks old and I picked up my order at My Pet Carnivore this week. I got chicken necks, ground whole chicken, turkey, and rabbit. Plus ground tripe. My question is...Are chicken necks the right item to start him off with? Does it have enough meat to it? Should I add some more chicken meat, breast or ground? I did buy some bone in chicken thigh at the market today. The package has no writing on it about being enhanced.
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You need to feed around 10% bone. A chicken neck is about 35% bone, so you will also need some plain chicken to feed alongside. The whole ground chicken should be fairly balanced in terms of meat/bone, it might be easier to start with that. Some dogs need a while to adjust to digesting bone, and ground bone can be a good place to start. I would still have the boneless meat on standby, keep and eye on his poo. If it is hard, white or crumbly you are feeding too much bone.
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How common is it for them to act like they are starving? He's crying and I already gave him 4 to 5 ounces, he is 2.8 pounds. Should I let him have more?
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I had a whole answer posted, thinking your dog was an adult. Then I realised he is still a puppy so I have deleted it, sorry.
Normally a puppy is fed at the recommended 2.5-3% of their expected adult bodyweight or 10% of their current weight. However, all mine eat far more than 3% as adults, more like 5% as tiny dogs tend to have faster metabolisms than regular sized breeds.
So I fed my pups to appetite, they were eating more than an adult sized portion at times. They were weaned onto raw though, so I didn't have to swap them over.
4-5 ounces is about 10% of his current weight, so a good starting point for his daily allowance. Split it into several meals (I would still be feeding 4 times a day at 12 weeks) and keep a close eye on his condition. If he starts to look ribby, increase the amount slightly.
All my adults eat like they have never been fed before, they just love their food. At 12 weeks the puppies were really good at self-regulating, they ate until they were full, but that might have been because they had never had anything but delicious raw food. They are 10 months now and would eat forever if I let them lol I don't weigh there food anymore, just go by their condition. When they are having a growth spurt they look lean very quickly and I increase the amount they get.
By slowly increasing the amount you feed you should avoid any upset tummy issues from too much food, and I think (hope!) Kaiser will hit his plateau where he is actually full at mealtimes. If he is still genuinely hungry I would add another small meal.
What is his condition like? With raw it is more important to constantly re-assess your dogs condition and feed accordingly rather than slavishly weighing everything and following charts and guidelines.
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Thanks for your patience with a newbie. Kaiser 's enjoying raw VERY much. Obviously raw is different then kibble, but he never cried in the few weeks I fed his kibble. Even today with the suggestions and a visible difference in a full belly he cried when I took the thigh bone away.
He's a great dog. He had diarrhea, but not till he made it outside.
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I'm on raw information overload. I have been reading so much I don't know if I'm starting raw right.
Kaiser is 12-ish wks old and I picked up my order at My Pet Carnivore this week. I got chicken necks, ground whole chicken, turkey, and rabbit. Plus ground tripe. My question is...Are chicken necks the right item to start him off with? Does it have enough meat to it? Should I add some more chicken meat, breast or ground? I did buy some bone in chicken thigh at the market today. The package has no writing on it about being enhanced.
The proper ratio is:
80% muscle meat
10% bone
5% liver
5% other organ meat, heart is considered muscle meat.

For proper nutrition you MUST feed all groups.

I personally find it most convenient to grind all the ingredients together, including the bone in the proper ratios to make sure they get everything they require every day, then feed raw recreational bones to keep their teeth clean.

There is an excellent guide right here on Chihuahua People. It is the first post in this section. I also read and re-read rawfeddogs.org because there is excellent info there too.
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I bought some chicken necks for my little one too, hope she likes them! (Primal Brand)

How often should I give her one of those? So far this is the only part of her diet that will raw at the moment.
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I would try her with half of one to begin with (I don't know how big the necks you have are, but generally American chickens seem to be bigger than British ones, and I generally only feed half of one as a meal)
Then keep an eye on her poo, if all goes well she can have them once or twice a week. There is usually quite a lot of bone in kibble, so if that is what you are feeding it may be too much bone content overall, which can cause constipation and hard poo.
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