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Old 08-03-2014, 09:17 AM
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Has anybody tried these? I never liked Nature's Menu before as their other products have a lot of grains and vegetables, but these (relatively new) ones seem a lot better and are grain free. I bought a bag (salmon and raspberry) a few days ago and my chis LOVE it. Lilo is very picky with pre-made raw foods like that, but she loves these... and the fact that they're nuggets (instead of a big frozen block) makes them quite convenient, much easier to handle when defrosting. I don't want to feed just that, but I'd quite like to add it to what I already feed for a bit of variety.

My concern is it says it's a complete food, but it doesn't indicate the bone content and there are no organs listed. Are we meant to assume that this falls under the protein source, in this case "salmon" and "chicken"? If so, that's a bit vague.

So I guess what I'm asking is does anybody know if this food contains organs and the right amount of bones? Maybe I should just email them. lol
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We tried the rabbit ones, my lot (who will eat anything) didn't like them which set alarm bells ringing for me. We had two that puked and the other three had diarrhoea, so they went in the bin.
The labelling is always vague on NM products, anything with chicken in will definitely contain bone as they use chicken carcasses. I would imagine the salmon is whole, but if they had included offal it would be mentioned.
I don't think I would class any of their products as complete, as a company they are still pushing carbs as a necessary part of a dogs diet and even the Country Hunter range is far too high in starchy veg for my liking.
I think they are fine as part of a balanced diet, but would need to be fed alongside more meat to balance out the high veg content.
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Wow, that's not a good sign! I do find that there's too much fruit and vegetables for my liking too. Mine have been doing well on the salmon one though. I tried the tripe nuggets in the past and Lilo hated them (which is weird considering she usually loves tripe) and they both had diarrhoea after so they went in the bin too. I was already suspicious of the quality and the amount of veg, but if there are no organs I'm not sure I want to feed that... maybe just as an occasional thing when I run out of food then.

The good news is I managed to make Lilo eat a raw chicken wing again! Yay! It took a lot of efforts, but by the end she was really chewing on it with enthusiasm... so maybe I won't need that pre-made stuff anymore soon. lol
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Hi ladies, I'm really interested in this food as well. I bought a packet of their new freeze dried treats (country hunter range) for Molly and she LOVED them, it actually has moved to the top spot in her treat league table, beating even ham and gammon! Absolutely unheard of for shop-bought treats in our house.

I am interested in moving her onto the raw nuggets. She's currently on a combination of Ziwipeak and homecooked (she won't eat ZP on it's own - fussy britches) so I have to mix it with homecooked veggies/meat/fish and even then she'll leave half of the ZP in the bottom of the bowl - expertly picked out and cleaned. She does really well on this food but I would really like her to try going raw as it is the best option, plus I really would like her to LOVE her doggy food and not just the human stuff I mix it with.

Interestingly, it scored 4.9 on the allaboutdogfood.co.uk site, ZP air dried scores 4.7!

I've just sent Natures Menu an enormous email with all my concerns and queries about moving over to raw (mainly, the contamination issue - she's a messy eater, how do I stop the spread of bacteria from her food onto carpets/furniture/floors... and she's really licky and loves to lick her mumma... is that safe to do if she's eating raw?). But also.. BONES, these scare me, I don't give her any bones at the moment (she has antlers as her chew) but I think this might be a big overlook on my part... should I be giving her bones as well? Won't she choke? She takes her chewys to a nice soft spot (sofa/bed/carpet) - she won't be able to do this with a raw chicken wing would she? where is safe for her to eat it? I'm so confused haha!

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I read it all! I think if you'd like to switch to a pre-made raw food, I would personally pick a different one, especially if you plan to feed mostly that one food. I was really interested in this food at first, but I'm not so sure now. I'm not too impressed that they contain no organs and they don't indicate the bone content. Also, there are too many fruits and vegetables for my liking. My chis pooped like crazy on this food. lol If I ever buy it again, I will feed dehydrated liver and kidney treats on top of it, but I wouldn't feel comfortable feeding just this food.

I'm personally going to stick with Natural Instinct after all. There is also Nutriment that's meant to be really good that you might want to look into, but unfortunately there is no shop near me that sells it and I can't order online as I don't have enough freezer space.

As for feeding raw bones and avoiding contamination issues, I taught my chis to eat raw bones on a towel or a mat in the kitchen so they don't carry it everywhere. lol You could feed her in an enclosed area. I know some feed bones in a crate. I clean their face and paws with a baby wipe after too.

There are some really good pinned threads in the raw section of the forum for those starting out on a raw diet and which bones are safe to feed, etc. It might put your mind at ease about issues like contamination and chocking. Raw bones are great for teeth, but you don't HAVE to feed them if you're not comfortable with it. If you're feeding a pre-made complete food, they will be ok without added bones, nutritionally speaking.
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Great advice from Camile, and it is great that you are thinking about raw. It does take a little time to do the research, but it is worth it IMO.
If you don't want to feed bones you can feed bone in minces or a complete pre-made. Bones are great for dental care and jaw exercise, they also give the dog a mental workout, so are a great addition. There are lots of ways of making sure your dog doesn't choke, and remember that dogs are designed to eat bones, they can fully digest them.
As for the contamination issues, raw meat you feed to your dog has no more bacteria than meat you would feed to your family, so the same hygiene rules apply. You are no more likely to pick up germs from a raw fed dog than a dog fed commercial foods, if you look at the recalls on kibble it is almost always salmonella contamination, just because it comes in a bag doesn't mean it is hygienic. So just stick to the same hygiene rules you use now.
I feed bones etc in crates on a clean pee pad which then gets thrown away. If you choose to feed a pre-made such as Nutriment it is just a matter of washing the bowl after each meal. We have a separate bowl and brush for washing the dogs dishes, but we would even if they were fed commercial dog food
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