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Okay, so we are ready to make the leap to feeding a more raw diet and will hopefully switch over completely if everything goes well. Some of you might remember that Odie was a sick pup for awhile (diarrhea, bacterial overgrowth, etc.) and it might have been from a beef intolerance or an intolerance to something. Because she did well on duck, we decided to feed Primal duck and eventually we added in Stella & Chewy's rabbit as well.

The good news is that there is no more diarrhea. The bad news is that she still has acid reflux. I've had reflux for years and have tried medications, apple cider vinegar, probiotics, sauerkraut, you name it. The only thing that really helps me is diet (low complex carbs and avoiding trigger foods) and I've read that the same is for dogs and that a raw diet can really help or at least help figure out what proteins are tolerated.

My question is, what should I start her out with? In the past, she has had both lamb and venison ziwi and had mucous-y poops with both so we stopped feeding it. I know that red meat is important in a raw diet (or any dog diet) so I'm struggling to figure out how I could make it work. Should I go ahead and start her on chicken like everyone recommends? I was at the grocery store today and saw that they have frozen rabbit and cornish hens. The rabbit was crazy expensive, around $23 for a small package.

Raw feeders, what do you think? Has anyone had a dog with acid reflux/GERD that a raw diet cured? What would you start Odie on if she was your dog? She is super picky with food lately and has turned her nose to ALL raw pre-made patties so I'm hoping that if I slightly cook some raw meat to start that she'll warm up to it. Thank you in advance!!
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Try reading this article:

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See if anything hits home!
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Oh and BG's new favorite (since her and Odie could be twins at times) is Stella & Chewy frozen raw Pheasant.
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Oh and BG's new favorite (since her and Odie could be twins at times) is Stella & Chewy frozen raw Pheasant.
The problem is that I've never seen her not have acid reflux so it's hard for me to pinpoint what she can't have. I'm thinking that it has to be something that's in the Primal and S&C other than the meat which is why raw might be good for her. She doesn't have any of the cool symptoms at all (pretty much the opposite) but I like the sounds of reducing inflammation and she is eating duck and rabbit right now and having no diarrhea so that's good. Maybe I will try raw duck or raw rabbit at first and then see if I can find any of the neutral meats that aren't beef like bison or quail. I think quail would be perfect for her because she's such a bird girl. Thank you Christie! Dog diets are such a mystery!

Oh, forgot to say that we tried a pheasant sample from S&C and she loved it but she won't touch the raw patties for some reason.
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I started Kerri on rabbit and goat. I did it because that is what I had around when she was a puppy- but it is certainly an option. Everyone says start with chicken because it is easy but you could start with anything that has plenty of edible bone and not much fat.
Duck might also be a more affordable option to start with if you don't want to do chicken but you will need to trim a lot of fat to start out with duck.

I would not put a lot of stock into what she can and can't eat now. You may find that whole raw foods are tolerated differently than the processed food (even the raw stuff).
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The pheasant is the only S&C raw that BG will eat. Otherwise it is Oma's pride.
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The only way to know is to try. Some dogs seem to show allergic reactions to intensively farmed meats, which is probably a sensitivity to the diet the meat is reared on or drugs they are given rather than the meat itself. If you can get meat that is wild or generally less messed with you can avoid this problem. If she likes birds then quail, pheasant, grouse, wood pigeon etc are all great if you can get them. Some of mine are not mad keen on gamey flavours though, they can be quite strong. Really it is just a matter of what is easily available that you can tweak the bone content with. I always start with chicken, but any meat will work.
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First of all, acid reflux is due to a weakness in the esophageus where the tube comes from the stomach throuogh the chest. Really is not due to allergies, although some foods make it worse. My chi, Zarita, has this, and is taking 1/4 tablet of Pepcid, over the counter, prescribed by the vet. This calms the irritation and heartburn (if dogs have heartburn?) She has been on it for years. I tried many foods and nothing made it better. She still has some reflux, but it is better.
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