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Old 09-02-2016, 06:48 AM
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Our dogs have been eating raw for over a year and haven't had any problems with it until last Saturday. Our chi/pug got really sick with vomiting and diarrhea. She ended up becoming dehydrated from it and had to be rushed to the vet, who said she probably has salmonella or E. coli. Our other dog also had diarrhea at the same time, but she recovered quickly. The two youngest dogs seemed unfazed by whatever was in the meat we gave them.

Now, I am trying to figure out how to feed our chi/pug, as well as the other dog. I am considering homecooking for these two, but I have no idea how to do that.

I really didn't think our chi/pug would have any sort of problem, because she's never gotten sick from her food. She finally started feeling like herself for the first time today, since Saturday.

If we were to cook her 80/10/10 food and substitute the bone for a calcium supplement, would that be considered balanced? I am really at my wit's end. I have no idea what to do and don't want to put her back on kibble. I've looked into premade but don't think I can afford it (I know I can't for our larger dog).

The vet also found sharp pieces of bone near her butt somewhere (I don't know where, exactly, because I wasn't actually at the vet visit), and she warned us that bones are dangerous to dogs. I don't believe they are dangerous, but the fact that they were sharp alarms me. She seems to chew her bones decently, but my boyfriend was the last one to feed her bone. (Just figured out that the reason they were even there was because of the loose stool).

Cuddles will probably stay on raw, and I think our other dog will, too. If we can't home cook, our pitbull mix might be going back on kibble .
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Old 09-02-2016, 02:26 PM
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You don't know that the illness she had was in any way connected to the food you feed. Also remember that nearly all the kibble recalls are due to salmonella contamination.
So don't rush into changing her diet just because she got sick with an unknown illness.
It sounds like your vet is anti-raw (many are sadly) so I would consider changing to a vet who shares your views.
The bone shards could simply be because her digestive system was compromised due to the illness. Once she is well she will be able to digest bone again.
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I think I am going to switch both our pug/chi and Cuddles to freeze-dried food. I thought freeze-dried wouldn't be affordable, but for those two it won't cost as much as I thought. I didn't think I would change Cuddles's diet, but I think she would prefer it, anyways, since she is the pickiest animal I've ever had. It takes miracles to get fish, liver, or kidney down her throat, despite that she's been eating raw for over a year. I will give her some fresh meat every once in a while, too.

I was just thinking today about how both Cuddles and our other dog didn't seem to want the ground beef they were given over a week ago. I thought they were just being the picky brats they always are, but now I do wonder if that's what made our pug/chi sick. I don't remember if Cuddles had any, but I do remember the other dog wanted no part of it and decided not to eat that night. Occasionally, he is stubborn like that and decides either not to eat or eat only a small amount of his meal. It wasn't old or anything and didn't even have any sort of odor to it.

I completely forgot about that incident, until today.
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You might try going back to a frozen pre-made raw like Northwest Naturals or Nature's Instinct. If I remember right, Northwest naturals comes from Oregon, and Instinct comes from Lincoln Nebraska.

Northwest is a bit less expensive and comes in 1oz chunks so it's easier to feed tiny dogs because it's easy to portion.

Other than that, I and Love and You out of Boulder Colorado puts out an "in the Raw" line of premixed freezedried, dehydrated. It's my go to for freeze dried ever since WellPet bought out Sojos. WellPet, if you don't know, is responsible for Old Mother Hubbard, Eagle Pack, and Wellness, so you might wait a year or so for Sojos to get settled in with their new company and all of the recipe tweaking that goes on
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Our pug/chi Dunkin is feeling so much better. It's so nice to see her happy after her being so sick. I bought them a bunch of Primal freeze-dried, but I got a good deal today on Stella and Chewy's. I'm trying to decide between the two brands and might switch back and forth. I'm shocked that Cuddles even likes it, even though at first she was weirded out by the texture of rehydrated meat.

We also started cooking for our large dog, Sophie, after I did a ton of research.

I think switching them to premade food is going to be better in the long run, especially for Cuddles, who has been extremely picky. I'm so proud of her today for eating Stella and Chewy's with whole salmon in it . She never usually touches fish, which is one of the many reasons homemade raw didn't seem balanced enough for her.

I wish I knew of a place that sold Stella and Chewy's frozen. I'm pretty sure the one place that sold frozen raw just got rid of their freezers . I might consider Nature's Variety Instinct, which Cuddles has had before, but for right now they are really stocked up on freeze-dried for at least a month (if I calculated everything correctly).

I might offer Cuddles a piece of raw meat with bone once a week or so.

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I still don't understand how Dunkin got sick. It seems to me that most signs point to it being a food-borne illness.
A few days ago, I remembered the two dogs that were unaffected turned down a meal of ground beef. I thought they were just being stubborn, like those two sometimes were, and didn't feel like beef that night. Then, I realized that was the last meal they had before the other two dogs were sick. I don't know how I didn't realize that until now.

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They seem happy so far, and that's what matters. Premade is also a lot less work, even though it's expensive. As long as they're happy and healthy.
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