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Hiya, hope no one minds answering more questions! I started Honey on raw 2 days ago, she loves it. I am currently only feeding her one raw meal in the evening, for her lunch she still has her grain free kibble (really because i have about 3 weeks worth of it left, so thought i might aswell use it up!) I'm definately planning to put her on full raw when its all gone, having trouble finding butchers in my area that have a variety though, but i will perservere.

So... i know at the start of feeding raw, there should be lots of bone. I'm currently giving her bone-in chicken wings and thighs, she is having no trouble getting through these (she currently has 1.5oz per raw meal of this). Should i be giving bone-in for each raw meal, if she is still on the kibble in the day?

How do you get your chi's to only eat on the one surface area? I have bought plastic mats for the floor and tried a towel, but each time, she has wanted to drag the meat off to a place where the floor isnt covered! Will she learn if i just keep putting it back to where i want her to eat it?

Do any of you use Kongs? If so, can you just put raw in and freeze it? (i would normally wet her kibble, mix with other tasty bits, seal the hole with organic PB and freeze it)
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Old 08-14-2012, 02:58 PM
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Hiya, hope no one minds answering more questions! I started Honey on raw 2 days ago, she loves it. I am currently only feeding her one raw meal in the evening, for her lunch she still has her grain free kibble (really because i have about 3 weeks worth of it left, so thought i might aswell use it up!) I'm definately planning to put her on full raw when its all gone, having trouble finding butchers in my area that have a variety though, but i will perservere.

So... i know at the start of feeding raw, there should be lots of bone. I'm currently giving her bone-in chicken wings and thighs, she is having no trouble getting through these (she currently has 1.5oz per raw meal of this). Should i be giving bone-in for each raw meal, if she is still on the kibble in the day?

How do you get your chi's to only eat on the one surface area? I have bought plastic mats for the floor and tried a towel, but each time, she has wanted to drag the meat off to a place where the floor isnt covered! Will she learn if i just keep putting it back to where i want her to eat it?

Do any of you use Kongs? If so, can you just put raw in and freeze it? (i would normally wet her kibble, mix with other tasty bits, seal the hole with organic PB and freeze it)
I'm sure others will jump in but I'll try and help....

Since she's doing well on the raw with bone-in and I assume having normal stools, then you can slowly back off on the bone. Give chicken thigh meat without the bone, for example, and alternate with a wing. Aim for mostly meat with just a little bone, and then eventually you will be at about 10% bone, which is the ideal. Kibble has plenty of calcium, so she won't be short changed if you back off on the bone.

Get our your mat, or towel, or whatever you decide to feed on. Hand her the raw food and when she settles down to eat it on the mat, give her praise. If she gets up with it and walks off, say 'no, stay on your mat' or words of your choice, and put her back on it. Do this repeatedly. Never let her eat off the mat. She will learn. Eventually you can just point if she starts to get close to the edge and she will move back on. Doesn't take long for them to learn eat only on the mat.

Yes, you can put raw in a kong and freeze. Minces work best for this.
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I get most of my raw from my local butcher. It is totally worth making friends with your butcher, ours puts things by for us, many will give bones etc away for free. Ours stocks all types of heart, (ox, lamb, pork and chicken, all go down extremely well with my two) pigs spleen (yucky!) and pancreas (yum!) calves and lambs kidneys (not keen) and several types of liver, (only chicken is eaten willingly!) They also have wild rabbits, chicken carcasses and various bones.
I get ribs from the butchers counter at Sainsburys, also fresh chicken wings and chicken portions off the shelf and frozen chicken livers and Basic beef/pork mince.
Asda have pork ribs on the shelf, (not always in Chi sized portions though) and also do a value frozen beef/pork mince.
Tesco are the only supermarket round here that stocks heart.
Then only thing I regularly get from pet shops is their tripe. I get Prize Choice freeflow minced green tripe in 2kg bags. It also comes in 400g blocks, but I have found this to be much more watery and not as 'green' as the freeflow type. Prize Choice is stocked by most pet shops in the UK (including Pets At Home) and I will use the frozen blocks occasionally (usually beef, turkey or lamb/chicken) but it isn't the best quality meat.
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Thanks Tracy, i knew i could rely on you!
I never even knew about feeding raw before coming on this site (my reaction was that of ewwww! - exactly what people i talk to now say!) - thankyou for answering all of the questions people have about it, really does make a difference! x
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Stella, thanks so much - very informative on raw in the UK.
Well, you'd never believe it, the 1 butcher i didnt ring yesterday in my area, i just rang - he stocks all sorts of stuff!! Various hearts, kidneys and livers, sweetbreads and melts, and a huge variety of meat - including rabbits, pheasant, all sorts of game, venison, kangaroo and zebra! Woo hoo! So im actually sat here at work smiling at the thought of all this meat lol! (Who would have thought i was a vegetarian until recently!)
Hoping i can do this raw on a budget, so am going to get friendly with the butcher and see what kind of deals he can do me!x
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Brilliant news! It really doesn't work out expensive, for example a whole rabbit costs me 4. But once portioned up and frozen it actually made 18 Chi meals, not including it's offal. Get in the habit of checking the reduced counters in the supermarket too, you can find some real bargains.
I was vegan years ago, so I know how you feel about butchers, it's an education! I had no idea what sweetbreads and melts were until a couple of months ago.
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Great info from Stella on what to find in the UK! You guys have a GREAT variety, I'm so jealous!

Rachel, sounds like you are off to a great start with your butcher! And like Stella pointed out, once you portion out the meat, it turns out to really not be expensive at all. I am just finishing up a very large venison heart which I chopped into 2 ounce chunks and froze. It lasted almost 6 months, being rotated in with other meats!
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And you cut the rabbit up yourself? I wouldnt know where to start and i dont think i could do it...! I was just going to ask the butcher to do it for me?
I think i will definately buy in bulk and freeze the portions, thanks for that

Another thing... i took Honey to the vets last night, just for a check up and to get some more flea/wormer treatments. I usually see this one vet, who is lovely, and is enthusiastic about doggy stuff! But he was ill last night, so i saw the vet in his place, who i wasnt best pleased with. We got onto the topic of diet... as soon as i mentioned Raw, her face dropped!

She was basically saying that a Chihuahua shouldnt be fed raw as they are too small (?!), that even raw bones can splinter, that chicken is the worst thing to feed and that salmonella is easily spread through poo!

Now, as you know, i am no expert! But seriously?! I didnt bother arguing with her, just nodded and took it all in, but i have been researching today (into the bones and salmonella things) - lots of people are saying dont feed supporting-weight bones, like big turkey leg bones? Is this right? Also, i clean up after Honey poo's straight away, so cant see the salmonella ever being a problem!

As for chicken being the worst thing to feed - i have read in a million posts that for the first few weeks, chicken should be the only meat fed. After that, work up to 50% red meat. I was still planning on feeding chicken alongside, i can do this cant i?
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