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Old 09-18-2012, 03:05 PM
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So we were at my mom's house most of last week and this weekend. While we were there I generally just cut servings of meat for biscuit off of what ever we were preparing for that meal with the exception of breakfast. So over the last 6-7 days he has had chicken, lamb, steak, goat, squirrel, and pork with the only ill effect being the morning after the goat and the squirrel his stool was a little less than firm, but NOT runny. He ate everything with no complaints.

So far as secreting organs go, he has had chicken liver, but I think he is ready to branch out. So for organs he needs to have 10% total of that total 5% must be liver or kidney (???), but what do I use for the 5%, any organ I can find?

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Ah he's doing great! That's what's nice about puppies! So adaptable.

For his 10% organ allotment, you will do half liver (beef, pork, chicken, calf) and half any other organ (kidney, thymus, brain, spleen, pancreas.) Usually kidney is easiest to find.
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Awesome. Just wanted to make sure that I had that right. So 5% liver and the other 5% is what ever I can find. I have the run of the gauntlet as far as access to organ meat so we will try them all eventually and figure out what he likes. It is shopping day so I am uber excited to get some different things for him to eat.

I am so proud of him though, my mom has a shih tzu puppy that is a week older than Biscuit that gets kibble. Biscuit turned his nose up at the kibble the entire time we were there! Wouldn't even go near the bowl that is put out for free feeding.
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LOL! Biscuit has had the good stuff! Why would he want to eat cereal?

If you have access to hunters and/or wild game you will have a great selection of clean meat and organs. I have a huge venison liver in my freezer that has been feeding Brody his liver allotment for months and I still have a lot left.

An easy way to figure the amount of organs needed is to look at how many ounces typically eaten in a day, say 5 ounces. Multiply that by 7 days, that is 35 ounces. So he needs to have 10% of his total in organs. That is 3.5 ounces a week. Half of that is liver. It's ok to round up or down a bit so say 2 ounces of liver and 2 ounces of another organ such as kidney will meet his needs.

I typically do organs on the weekend. It's just easy for me to remember that way. So Brody gets a bony meal for breakfast Saturday, then organs for dinner. Then Sunday another bony meal and organs for supper. Then he's done with organs for another week. Some dogs need worked up to this as organs are rich and can cause loose stools. Usually the bony meals keep everything firm.

Some people prefer spreading organs out throughout the week so you could give a fingernail sized piece of liver or kidney with his regular meals several times through the week and that would work too.
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When I am in Kentucky I have access to hunters goodies, but in Chicago not so much. I am going to be getting some fresh stuff from my Grand-pa as hunting season comes about back home (deer, wild turkey, birds, rabbit, squirrel, and elk) if we are lucky. I already put in the request for all of the organ meats! And since it is that time of year, because my folks live on a farm, I will be getting the pieces that they don't want from the hogs, goats, sheep, and cattle (all the good doggy stuff). So if I can get through until around thanksgiving, we will basically have a full years worth of food for my little man. Thank goodness my landlord lets me keep a deep freeze in the basement! I however am not looking forward to cutting all that up into 2 oz portions for meals!

By the way have I mentioned how much fun this is turning out to be...looking for new things for him to try could turn into an obsession.

So by my calculations right now Biscuit gets 8 oz a day (growing puppy), with a little extra if he is still hungry at the end of the day. So that is 56 oz a week. 2.8 oz of that will be liver and 2.8 oz will be other organ meat. Because of the runny poo situation with organ meat I am trying to portion it out into his meat only meals throughout the week that way he never gets a big portion. So as I put his meals into ziplocs, I am just adding a sliver of liver and a sliver of another organ into the bags. He will eat it that way no problem too.
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Stephanie, that sounds perfect. You have a great handle on things. Excellent job! I am looking forward to hearing more about Biscuits raw journey. I'm positive that your posts can be a great help to others who are just starting out.
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You are too kind! Most of this is because of all of your posts! But thank you for the compliment. More importantly thank you for all of the help and advise and information. You and Brody should be the world's spoke's team/poster children for raw.
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You're welcome. I had an awesome gal here help me when I was just starting out when Brody was a puppy and so I pass on the favor.
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