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Old 03-08-2013, 11:27 PM
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I am always curious- have you guys figured that out yet ? I am a little curious because I have a few friends and people I know through dog rescue who have had healthy-ish dogs have horrible reactions (either pancreatitis or other things) to either getting a strip of bacon, licking the platter the turkey was on at thanksgiving, eating bacon grease, etc...

Why is it that a regular pet dog gets horribly sick more often than not from what I would consider not horribly large amounts of cooked fat but other dogs can eat HUGE amounts of raw fat. Sled dogs for instance are often fed kibble along with big cubes of raw fat. Or even one person I heard of who feeds raw to their sled dogs adds HUGE cubes of fat to the dogs raw diet.

And my Kerrigan for instance. She is for all intents and purposes a performance dog. She walks/runs/exercises regularly in much greater amounts than most "pet" dogs and has a good looking agility career ahead of her- or at least that is what I am grooming her for. I feed her a lot of fat compared to my other dogs just to keep her weight up, always throwing her the fattier cuts of meat and such just to keep her weight up!

In fact overall I feed my dogs a fair bit of fatty cuts and they are all healthy, have great bloodwork, nice coats etc...

So why is this? I sort of see why it is- you give an already overweight or just generally sedentary dog who does not do much or is not used to it a large amount of fat and their system just does not know what to do with it. But does anyone know what is going on here in more scientific or technical terms? Like what body function is causing this? Just curious.
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I think you answered your own question. Sled dogs, high performance dogs use up a huge amount of calories. Fat has 9 calories/gram. Protein has 4calories.Starch has 4 caloires/gram. So these dogs need the fat. A lap dog that gets into fat such as bacon grease will almost always get very sick. Pancreatitis for one. We had a sheltie that did this, and is now very easily upset if she eats too much fat.
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Old 03-10-2013, 04:57 AM
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I think you answered your own question. Sled dogs, high performance dogs use up a huge amount of calories. Fat has 9 calories/gram. Protein has 4calories.Starch has 4 caloires/gram. So these dogs need the fat. A lap dog that gets into fat such as bacon grease will almost always get very sick. Pancreatitis for one. We had a sheltie that did this, and is now very easily upset if she eats too much fat.
Yes- that makes total sense to me. But I am just curious about it more specifically.

Let me give an example, for instance if you eat a bunch of sugar really fast it might mess with your blood sugar for a time, but healthy people are able to recover from that without medical intervention, if you are diabetic you cannot recover as easily, because you are not able to correctly regulate insulin in your body. I could down a bag of gummy bears with no immediate ill effects but my friend with type 1 diabetes cannot because of a specific body process that she has different from me. Foods don't just kill you- your body's inability to process them do.

There must be some explanation of the body process that happens other than it is just too much fat and they don't need it. The research I have done about pancreatitis has not told me anything about why a more fit dog is able to deal with fat and other dogs might not be. In a general way- yes- it makes absolute sense to me- but that is not an explanation of the bodily function (or malfunction) that causes it. Do I make any sense?
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Old 03-10-2013, 06:56 PM
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I posted another answer to this, but don't see it. Soooooo: fat has 9 calories per gram, starch and protein have 4 calories per gram. A very fit hunting dog, thats out hunting for hours, a sled dog, some performance dogs NEED the extra calories that fat automatically has. If you did not feed these dogs the 'extra' fat, they could not do their jobs. Their endocrine system is set up for fat. Lap dogs system can not handle that much fat. Hunting dogs on the 'off' season are not fed that much fat then. It has to be added each year while 'getting ready' for hunting, sledding seasons.
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Old 03-10-2013, 07:07 PM
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I saw the answer! It just wasn't what I was looking for. I totally understand what you are saying- but read my post above, I think it explains what I am after.

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Heating changes the molecular structures of the fat. I would be willing to bet that is why they will tend to get sick from cooked bacon, etc.
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