1st TIME BREEDER HAS A QUESTION....

jailergirl2001 said:

Ozzysmom-

You know, I just asked a question, do you always try to make people feel stupid for asking a question????? I thought that is what this board was for, or am I wrong??? For you info, yes I do know about the whole diet and Folic Acid thing.

NOW, let me ask you a question......

If people only breed their Chi's to "better the breed" then why do they SELL them for hundreds of dollars????? Why not just GIVE them to good homes??? I mean they were only born to "better the breed" they weren't supposed to be born to make the owners some money. And if you own a male Chi and you breed him with someone else's female, I'm sure you charge the females owner a pretty penny. Just how much would you charge????

Jailer (mommy to Muffin)

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Let me just say that I have been breeding and showing for 15 years, I did not want to get into this but since you are so defensive and seem to have a very short temper, not to mention that Ozzymom was simply asking a question and to be frank you are very rude.

Let me shed some light on why I adopt out our puppies: ( I am ONLY SPEAKING for MYSELF not other breeders!!)

It takes a lot of care to raise and show Chihuahuas. More money that you will ever make in selling the puppies. I do not sell my show quality pups they are kept and made champions. When you adopt out the pet quality pups as I do there is a adoption fee of $ 400 that includes, vet checks. shots, worming, crate (even if you are not shipping) Blanket, toys, and food (yes I send a 7lb bag of food home with the new mommies and daddies) and a pack of puppy pee pee pads ( yes I send them home too) And a tube of Nutracal (yes I send that home too). And let me tell you that come to right around the $400 dollars. Now I am not saying that there are people out there just looking to make money. But if you find a breeder that cares alot about their pups as I do then there is NO PROFIT to be made!!! :wink:

not to add fuel to the fire but it think she was just asking about the process of getting stuck together.... not many people know what happens to the male's penis during impregnation. even some breeders don't know a lot about anatomy......... obviously she asked her veterinarian questions she mentioned it in the first post. yes getting a book aobut it would have been ideal..... but i think some people tend to read into things as seeing a question like someone is ignorant and doesn't know what they are doing. and others tend to get very defensive. now that said,

here's some info i think you wanted to hear.....

- Os Penis. The objective
of this small bone within
the free extremity of the
penis (glans penis) is to
direct the male's nonerect
penis into the
bitch's vulva and vagina
during the early stages
of mating.
- Bulbus Glandis. This
swelling of the penis is
located toward the rear
end of the os penis. As
soon as the male dog
inserts his penis into the
bitch's vagina and begins
to thrust, the bulbus
glandis enlarges to a firm
spherical shape, resulting
in the so-called "coital
tie." This tie prevents the
male dog and the bitch
from separating immediately
after ejaculation
and may last from 5 to
60 minutes.

THANK YOU, LUVMYPET!!!!!!!

I was ONLY asking a question so that I would I know the whole process. Thank you LuvMyPet for the great information. I do adore my Chi and I did not want her to get hurt, so it frightened me. who would think to ask their Vet, "so, do the 2 get "stuck together" ?" Not me. Anyway, you helped mr to understand why and eased my mind. Thank you again!

KJ - Quite frankly, I do not think I was being rude. When I read OzzyMoms response I thought it was VERY inappropriate. She does not know me, all I asked for was a simple answer to a question, and it seemed as though she was attacking me, like I didn't know what I was doing, or how I was supposed to do it, and WHY I was doing it.
AND....my Chi is up to standard, thank you. The stud that I bred her with is also compatible in size and standard. I am not a "backyard breeder", just so you know. I was very picky in choosing a stud. I would never do anything to harm my Chi or the Chi breed. They are beautiful dogs.
As for the selling of dogs, I see it on here ALL the time. Chi's for sale for $1200.00. You can't tell me these people who sell a Chi for that much are looking to "better the breed". I was not implying thay YOU yourself sold your pups for a profit, just people in general. I see it all the time.

Ozzysmom...yes I get a little defensive when I am attacked by someone that does NOT know me and someone who makes me feel stupid for asking a completley logical question. I will not apologize for that. All I needed was a simple answer to ease my mind, not some smart a** comments or someone telling me the "only" reason to breed. I have a Vet that takes care of that end, thank you. Maybe I should have called him to find out the answer to my question.

Ozzysmom.....

WHY are you in this room if you are NOT a breeder???? Is this room not for "breeders and breeding"? And to answer your question....YES you are a smart ass. I have read some of the other posts and same thing...SMART ASS comments. I think you just like to cause these arguments.

And for everyones information, I DID do my research. Maybe I did not know what "tie" meant when I was reading up on breeding. I do believe that I did the responsible things that breeders should do when they breed their dogs. I took her to the Vet and discussed breeding with him. I bred her with a stud that is comparable in size, even a little smaller I might add. My Muffin is 4 pounds and the stud was 3 pounds. And guess what, he has papers! They are both as purebred as they come. I started her on puppy food for reproductive stages and lactation with Folic Acid, lots of vitamins, and Iron way before she was even bred. So PLEASE, do NOT tell me that I did not do my research before I decided to breed. Yes maybe I should have asked the VET what "tie" meant. Excuse me for being more concerned about how to give my Chi a healthy pregnancy for her and the puppies than knowing what "tie" meant. To be honest, asking the vet what that meant was the farthest thing from my mind while he was discussing the importance of nutrition and not getting a stud that was too big and the process of whelping, and the dangers, and the things to look for when she is pregnant, and the things to look for while she is whelping that may indicate that I need to take her to the Vet, and what to do with the puppies once they are born, like cutting the cord, and drying them off, and moving them so they do not get trampled while the mother is having another pup, and the importance of staying with her while she is whelping and after. Taking temperatures, weighing pups, writing things down. Yes it was all alot to absorb at the time. And YES if you are wondering, I wrote it down for future reference. NOW don't call be an irresponsible breeder!

I do NOT think that you are qualified to give people your replys or smart ass comments in this room, if you yourself do not breed.

I am a MODERATOR hence why i am in this room I am here to moderate this forum and I obviously know more about breeding than you, you do not have to be a breeder to come into this section , we just put it restricted because of all the arguments like this :shock:

I FOR ONE AND I KNOW ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO WILL AGREE WOULD NOT EVEN THINK OF BREEDING A BITCH THAT WAS ONLY 4 POUNDS

Please do not call me a smart ass, I am smart because I know a hell of alot about chihuahuas and I come on here evryday for the last year and help as many people as I can and more often than not every now and then we get people just like you who come here and cause problems and Luvmypuppet I read it that she didnt know what happened with the mechanics the same as Janie did , glad you see know why we were so worried :wave: