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We have to leave about 7:30 am to Michigan State University veterinarian hospital. See what wrong with her, I pray it is not serious and easy fix. Not sure if we will have to stay over night, if not when we get home that night I let you know, If you don't hear from me we had to stay over night. My husband is going to try to get his old lap top up and running so I have PC if I need to stay over.
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Thinking about you and Amberleah.
Update

DIAGNOSIS:
Intersexuality ( hemaphrodite)
Bilateral Nephroliths and Mineralization of the Kidneys
HISTORY:
AmberLeah LouLou is a 7 month old intact female Chihuahua. Her owner bought her from a breeder off of Craigslist
when she was 6 weeks old on May 1st. At that time she believed that she had a larger than normal vulva but it has
gradually increased in size since then and is now elongated and swollen. She has never gone through a heat cycle. She
also has been polydipsic, polyuric and pollakiuric since she brought her home. The owner reports that she drinks a lot
during the day. She will frequently urinate multiple times in an hour. Occasionally she will dribble when walking but
the owner has not noticed any wet spots after she lays down or on her blankets after she takes a nap. Two months ago
she collected urine from AmberLeah LouLou and brought it to her referring veterinarian for a urinalysis. They found
some blood in her urine and prescribed an antibiotic which did not improve her polyuria/polydypsia. She is an indoor
only dog that uses peepads throughout the house but has frequent accidents. She also had some hair loss, which the
owner reports that she had this at 6 weeks but that the hair loss has gotten worse over the past few months.
AmberLeah Loulou is fed Wellness puppy a mix of dry and canned about a fistful of both twice daily. She is hand fed
her food as she is a picky eater though she readily eats the 4-5 wellness puppy treats she receives daily. She is normally
on Revolution though she is two weeks overdue and they found a flea on her a couple of day s ago and gave her a flea
bath. She is up to date on her puppy vaccines though she still needs her rabies and lepto. Her parents were both 8
pounds and the breeder refuses to answer emails regarding genetic problems and if the other puppies are small. She lost
her deciduous tooth 805 last week.
PHYSICAL FINDINGS:
On physical exam AmberLeah Loulou was bright, alert and responsive. She had a temperature of 102.0 F, her HR was
200 bpm and she was shaking. She weighed 3.07 pounds and had a BCS of 5/9. She had an enlarged and protruding
vulva about 3cm by 1 1/2cm in size. Palpation of the vulva alluded to a thin hard structure inside the vulva consistent
with an os clitoris. She also has some bilateral symmetrical hair loss over her rump, chest, ears and shoulders. She has a
mottled pattern of hair loss over her dorsum. She was very tense on abdominal palpation and her kidneys could not be
palpated. She had a retained deciduous tooth 305.
DIAGNOSTIC TESTS:
Abdominal ultrasound:
Summary:
Bilateral nephroliths and/ or dystrophic mineralization of the renal diverticula
CBC:

DATE OF ADMISSION: 11/15/2011 DATE OF DISCHARGE: 11/15/2011
PRESENTING COMPLAINT: PU/PD and an enlarged vulva
Procedure Ref Range Units.

DISMISSAL INFORMATION:
AmberLeah was referred for abnormal vulvar conformation and increase water intake and urination. Given the
diagnostics previously performed our differential included: underlying systemic disease causing pu/pd like behavior
(endocrine, liver, renal), urinary tract infection or vaginitis, and possible exterior genital abnormalities cause by
inappropriate androgen secretion. This over exposure is usually due to the fetus being exposed to excess androgens,
otherwise known as sex hormones, during development. Much less commonly it can occur to due self release of
androgens from the adrenal glands or sex organs. This type of change would be described a hermaphroditism (or a mix of
both female and male reproductive organs) now termed intersexuality.
Diagnostics today showed no major abnormalities on bloodwork or urinalysis that would easily explain her increased
thirst and urination or physical changes. There was a mild increase in calcium, hypercalcemia can cause Pu/pd to occur
but often at much higher values. Abdominal ultrasound revealed small renal nephroliths and cystic mineralization. This
could be due to underlying renal disease or cyclic increases in this hypercalcemia causing mineralization. Her specific
gravity indicated that she was able to concentrate urine well and that no indication of infection was noted. In terms of her
increased thirst and urination we would recommend performing an ionized calcium (which is a truer reflection of the
calcium circulating in the body).
In terms of her sex organs no obvious abnormalities which seen on abdominal ultrasound. The ovaries were both
visualized, and her uterus was present. Ultrasound is a sensitive medium but there is still some chance that
abnormalities were visualized. If AmberLeah is truly a hermaphrodite (Intersexual changes) then a normal appearing
reproductive tract could be seen with changes to tissue type being more microscopic. We recommend that AmberLeah
LouLou have an exploratory laparotomy (abdominal explore) and be spayed at MSU. At that time we would also like to
perform a vaginal exam consider running some further endocrinological tests to find the source of the excess androgens,
otherwise known as sex hormones, that are resulting in the increase in vulvar size. We may use human gonadotropin
hormone to stimulate androgen release, then we will measure her hormone levels after this to determine if her adrenal
gland is secreting excess androgens or other endocrine hormones. If Amberleah undergoes a spay then she should live a
normal life span to little with no side effects from her conformational changes. Occasionally there is a small piece of
cartilage or bone present in the clitoris of the female dog (like an os penis) that has to be reduced or removed to help
with recurrent urinary signs. This would be address far after her spay.
AmberLeah Loulou's excessive urination and drinking may be due to an anatomic abnormality due to her
pseudohermaphroditic condition, or due to early renal disease. It will be important to submit an ionized calcium level
and consider further endocrine testing. It would be our recommendation to return to MSU and drop Amberleah off with
the internal medicine department to finish her medical work up, then transfer her to soft tissue surgery the next day for
her abdominal explore and spay. Please let us know what date might be convenient for us to pursue this care.
Thank you for bringing AmberLeah LouLou to MSU VTH. She was a wonderful patient.
Thank
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So Amberleah will have to go back, more test stay over night and then spay with some reconstructive surgery. I don't know why at her young age she would have bad kidney.

I want to Thank everyone for their thoughts and Prayers.
Oh my goodness that was a really well thorough explanation terrible that the breeder doesn't care at all. I wish Amberleah Lou Lou the best I hope her kidneys are ok poor baby :(
Oh my well I have been reading all threads regarding your baby and there was a few people on here who said it could be that.
As for her kidney at least they found the problem now but wow what a shock.
Well she is in good hands and she is going to be ok after all these tests and after her spay. My thoughts are with you both and please keep us posted xx
I was one who thought of this. Hopefully the removal of the reproductive organs will help with the urination problem. Kidney disease is usually controlable when it is not of a progressive type. If this is from androgen hormones, the vet will 'search' for remants of the testes when he spays her. Good luck. Did you make an appointment? Sue
After her first exam I had to leave her there for 5 hours, so i went to mall and got something to eat, I am on a strict diet because of Candida, I can only eat raw. vegetables and chicken, fish, nothing even with hint of sugar, yeast, egg, dairy, Well I was very bad, don't tell my husband, lol, but I got bananas foster french toast, with lots of caramel sauce. It was so good. but feel very guilty now...
There was so many people with cats and dogs with cancer so sad. many of them old in 15 years of age, do you think an animal that old if you would put thousands of dollars to saving them to give you just few more years. I am not sure. I guess it all depends.
I was one who thought of this. Hopefully the removal of the reproductive organs will help with the urination problem. Kidney disease is usually controlable when it is not of a progressive type. If this is from androgen hormones, the vet will 'search' for remants of the testes when he spays her. Good luck. Did you make an appointment? Sue
Susan I want to Thank you so very much for thinking it my be boy/ girl problem. So very great full, God Bless you friend.
Amberleah loulou is such a lucky girl to have you as a mom, you are taking such good care of her :) . That bannanas foster french toast and caramel sounds delicious. dont feel guilty, at least you enjoyed it . just get right back on special diet
After her first exam I had to leave her there for 5 hours, so i went to mall and got something to eat, I am on a strict diet because of Candida, I can only eat raw. vegetables and chicken, fish, nothing even with hint of sugar, yeast, egg, dairy, Well I was very bad, don't tell my husband, lol, but I got bananas foster french toast, with lots of caramel sauce. It was so good. but feel very guilty now...
There was so many people with cats and dogs with cancer so sad. many of them old in 15 years of age, do you think an animal that old if you would put thousands of dollars to saving them to give you just few more years. I am not sure. I guess it all depends.
I know a little of what you are going through. Quigley has kidney issues and is on a protein free diet. I have to take Quigley to UGA (University of Georgia). Our visits at UGA sound much like yours. Drop him off go to town for a while then go back to the school get the report and course of action when I pick him up. He had 2 surgeries there (not for his kidneys) and had ICU care each time. $$$ well spent. I do not regret a penny. I thank God I had the $$ to do it. If we did not have the money then we would do the best we could afford. Each person has to do whats best for them emotionally and financially.

As far as the french toast. Hope it did not make you more ill. And good for you! I bet it was amazing!
I know a little of what you are going through. Quigley has kidney issues and is on a protein free diet. I have to take Quigley to UGA (University of Georgia). Our visits at UGA sound much like yours. Drop him off go to town for a while then go back to the school get the report and course of action when I pick him up. He had 2 surgeries there (not for his kidneys) and had ICU care each time. $$$ well spent. I do not regret a penny. I thank God I had the $$ to do it. If we did not have the money then we would do the best we could afford. Each person has to do whats best for them emotionally and financially.

Oh ya the Genetic department came down and got Blood sample and they will do it for FREE!!!

As far as the french toast. Hope it did not make you more ill. And good for you! I bet it was amazing!
So far the bill was $700.00 have no idea yet what the next visit will Cost. Christmas will be very little this year and I told my husband that my present for my Birthday and Christmas. it is hard as my husband just got back to work after losing his job for 11 months, still playing catch up. I don't work as I have lots medical issues my self.
Oh ya the Genetics department came down drew blood and will test it or FREE!!!!
Theresa - thank you for posting this. Something we can all learn from! It is so interesting that she is a hermaphrodite after all. I do think that the spay will remove all those interfering hormones and she can recover normally and then live a normal life. It was well worth it to go to the university and get this very thorough and detailed work up! I am so thankful that you are such a wonderful owner and take such good care of Amberleah loulou. At last you have an answer and that is worth SO much for peace of mind! Now onto the spay and then you can have your little girl home and have this all behind you. :)
Lab results

If anyone interest I have the lab results But I cant read them. I'll post if you want them.
I am so glad you have a diagnosis :) my instincts were right :)
If I was you I would speak to your vet, give them the report and explain how you feel that they have let you down and due to their incompetence you have to fork out a lot of money to enable You to get a proper diagnosis and care for your pet. As her vet they have a duty of care to her, personally I don't feel they have given you that.

I am glad it is not hugely serious and can be treated. When I thought she could be a hermaphrodite I did some research into it and it's quite common. I find the entire thing fascinating!!

I believe that you were given amberleah to help her, she is a very special girl with a special mum who will see her through this. I think she is under the best care possible.

Good luck with her treatment
I am so glad you have a diagnosis :) my instincts were right :)
If I was you I would speak to your vet, give them the report and explain how you feel that they have let you down and due to their incompetence you have to fork out a lot of money to enable You to get a proper diagnosis and care for your pet. As her vet they have a duty of care to her, personally I don't feel they have given you that.

I am glad it is not hugely serious and can be treated. When I thought she could be a hermaphrodite I did some research into it and it's quite common. I find the entire thing fascinating!!

I believe that you were given amberleah to help her, she is a very special girl with a special mum who will see her through this. I think she is under the best care possible.

Good luck with her treatment
I told the doctors at MSU why am I the one who gets the sick dogs, I just put my Pomeranian Sissy down after trying so hard to save her. The vets says she see it a lot the ones who love their baby's so much are the one who get the sick ones, and the one who don't really care for their pets get healthy ones, she says God gave her to me because He know Ill help her. I agree...
I told the doctors at MSU why am I the one who gets the sick dogs, I just put my Pomeranian Sissy down after trying so hard to save her. The vets says she see it a lot the ones who love their baby's so much are the one who get the sick ones, and the one who don't really care for their pets get healthy ones, she says God gave her to me because He know Ill help her. I agree...
Ah you know this is the million dollar question. I am not religious in the slightest but I do agree we are given things to help. Seems to be the good people get all the stress though to me. The way I see it is it could
Be a lot worse, you've done the hard part getting the diagnosis. The remedy is pretty easy from what they have said. It will be interesting to see what they find at her spay!!!

Good thing is dogs don't see differences they just see dogs!!!
So glad you got a diagnosis, Theresa, and that it can be treated. :)
I thought she might be I'm glad that you are reacting to this so well as well. I know you are religious and I know of some people who are very religious and would have put her down for being what she is. I'm am so very happy she is in your home.

Just think though, after all is said and done and she is healthy it will all be over and you will have a happy healthy puppy who should just need yearly shots. It sucks that this happened to you, but at the same time such a good thing for Amberleah that it did. She should be very very grateful to have a mom like you, she truly was given to you because fate knew you would take the best care of her you could. Thank you for being such a good mommy to her.
I am so glad they finally figured out what is wrong with AmberLeah. I am sure you feel much better now!
There was so many people with cats and dogs with cancer so sad. many of them old in 15 years of age, do you think an animal that old if you would put thousands of dollars to saving them to give you just few more years. I am not sure. I guess it all depends.
I probably wouldn't. It isn't just about the money, but putting an older dog through surgery and a painful recovery just doesn't seem fair. They don't understand what is going on. I would probably let them live until the cancer affected their quality of life.
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