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I really am not sure what to do... Avas legs are getting worse i can see it in her toes... I have been trying to cute her nails but It actually hurts her because the bend her toes and they are already hurting. She bit me good this wee. :( The vet says she not in Pain and she is taking 1 15mg tab of Prednazone (sp?) a day to slow the process. I just Feel Avas pain and I see it in her when she trys to jump on the couch or off the couch and does a faceplant.. or if she wants up or down off someones lap. or if shes trying to play with one of the other dogs she cant stand to play she has to lay down... She can run she waddles. I will actually try to get a video of Ava walking so you guys can see it. Here are some pictures of her now and about 6 months ago...

about 8 or 9 months ago



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Now ( I know her nails look bad But i swear they really are not its because of the way her toes are spreading and now growing weird)

 

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Oh bless, Poor Ava. Just by looking at the photos it looks painful. How did they get like that. Poor baby, I know it must be hard for you to see her like that plus hearing the vets say she's not in pain, when you can really see the real her. Poor baby. I'll keep her in my prayers and hope something can help her. Did they say she can be helped or fixed?
 

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What is her diagnosis?? I've seen things like that which are due to malnourishmebt or vitamin deficiency (obv I'm not accusing u of this)

Seriously I wouldn't let her bite you regardless if what is wrong with her or if she's in pain your her leader it's against pack mentality to bite pack leader

Anyway I hope you can get her better
 

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Oh the poor baby!
I would take her somewhere else, cause i find it hard to believe she is not in any pain or discomfort with feet like that!
Cant they do anything for her?
Even amputation would be better than that, and lots of dogs live a long happy life and get prosthetic feet.

Your heart must break seeing her this way, i know i would feel the same.
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Oh gosh, I'm so sorry, poor little girl! :( It must be so hard for you seeing her like this. Is there anything they can possibly do for her?
 

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Awe, that is just heartbreaking. I can't imagine she's not in pain. If I were you I'd pop a sock over her head and clip those nails. I had to do that w/ Laurel at first when I met hubby b'c her nails were awful and she'd bite, HARD. It doesn't hurt them and they can breathe fine but it obv keeps from biting. Her poor little legs :( that makes me so so so sad.
 

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Bless her heart. :( I would do what Kristi mentioned, or let the Vets office cut her nails. Poor sweet baby girl. They never found anything that could help her?
 

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The way her feet are doing is how people get when they have rheumatoid arthritis. I can imagine that it's painful. I can't see how it wouldn't be. :(
 

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Is it mostly just her front legs? Has the vet considered remving the effected legs and getting her a wheelie chair?
 

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oh gosh - those pictures make me so sad. Is she in pain? She must be if she is biting at you when you touch her feet. What is her quality of life like? She looks miserable. How awful for you and for her.
 

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I read here in the forum that some people are giving there dogs joint & bone medicine or something. Maybe you can look into that but for the time being, I would ask the vet for some kind of pain relief or arthritis medicine. I agree that this has a similarity to arthritis, but until you know for sure, I'd request some kind of pain relief medicine. Poor baby.
 

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Is it mostly just her front legs? Has the vet considered remving the effected legs and getting her a wheelie chair?
Yeah this is the kind of thing i was talking about.
There are other options before having to go down the road of having them PTS with something like this anyway.Surely?
That is defo what i would look into.
Look at wee Willy on here, he does fine, no better than fine after his amputation.
I really hope something like that can be done for Ava.
She is such a doll, bless her heart. xx
 

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She is diagnosed with Rheumatoid arthritis . The vet says its cause of bad breeding she said Ava most likely has some imbredding in her blood line. It is all of her legs not just her front her back ones just arnt as bad.. I have done every test imaginable from blood work to Bone tests. all we can do is make her comfortable and prolong the inevitable.. Its not just in her feet her tail also has a weird kink in it... It breaks my heart to have her like this it really does and just when you think im at the point where im ready to PTS then Boom she hasa week of good days wheres is waddling super fast and just overly happy. I just wish you guys could see it in person...
 

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Wow, I have a friend who had a toy poodle with Degenerative Arthritis and that's what her dog looked like, she took him to several specialists, and had accupuncture done on him, basically his joints were bone on bone, and his toes spread apart like that, it was so sad, he was very young when it started. He was on Prednisone & Tramadol (for the pain). He essentially lost all the cartilage in his joints. Do you have Ava on any glucosamine/chondroitin? I've never seen a dog with rheumatoid arthritis look like that, normally just get the extremely swollen joints. Did they do an RA Factor test on her? I'm so sorry your poor baby has to go through this. Personally I would push the pain factor with your vet arthritis is VERY extremely painful especially rheumatoid. I have a form of rheumatism in my hands and it freaking kills when I have flare ups. If your vet doesn't think she's in pain, I'd search for another vet/or an orthopedic specialist.

Here is my friends website for Sonny (who has since crossed Rainbow Bridge): degenerative arthritis
 

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Wow, I have a friend who had a toy poodle with Degenerative Arthritis and that's what her dog looked like, she took him to several specialists, and had accupuncture done on him, basically his joints were bone on bone, and his toes spread apart like that, it was so sad, he was very young when it started. He was on Prednisone & Tramadol (for the pain). He essentially lost all the cartilage in his joints. Do you have Ava on any glucosamine/chondroitin? I've never seen a dog with rheumatoid arthritis look like that, normally just get the extremely swollen joints. Did they do an RA Factor test on her? I'm so sorry your poor baby has to go through this. Personally I would push the pain factor with your vet arthritis is VERY extremely painful especially rheumatoid. I have a form of rheumatism in my hands and it freaking kills when I have flare ups. If your vet doesn't think she's in pain, I'd search for another vet/or an orthopedic specialist.

that is exactly what is happening to her its bone on bone and its all fusing together.... Ava is young she will be 4 Jan 21st... i think i am going to go to another vet... Ava was on tramadol but shes allergic.. thank you :)
 

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that is exactly what is happening to her its bone on bone and its all fusing together.... Ava is young she will be 4 Jan 21st... i think i am going to go to another vet... Ava was on tramadol but shes allergic.. thank you :)
Check out my friends link she has pictures & stuff on there of what she went through with Sonny, his bones fused together. He was only 6 when she finally had to put him to sleep to end his suffering, but his started when he was 2 years old.
Here is my friends website for Sonny (who has since crossed Rainbow Bridge): degenerative arthritis.
 

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Poor sweet Ava. I hope you're able to find some relief for her at least. I can't believe the vet doesn't think she's in pain. How can she not be?! :(
 

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Check out my friends link she has pictures & stuff on there of what she went through with Sonny, his bones fused together. He was only 6 when she finally had to put him to sleep to end his suffering, but his started when he was 2 years old.
Here is my friends website for Sonny (who has since crossed Rainbow Bridge): degenerative arthritis.
I cant get the link to work :(
 
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