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Well first, thank you for posting this link...I've been wanting to see this documentary since I first heard about it but was never able to find it online.

I have so many thoughts and emotions running through my mind after watching this. But to keep this brief, I too am appalled and disgusted by what was shown here (to say the least). I doubt I will ever understand the things that are done to innocent animals at the hands of humans. From the puppy millers who think they are doing nothing wrong to the abomination that is the fur industry.

Now, add to that the people who think it's ok to breed these animals into oblivion with known horrific diseases playing through their genes all for the sake of aesthetics, titles, and "tradition". Not to mention the segment on the culling of healthy "non-ridged" Rhodesian puppies? I don't know...I feel ill.:sad3:
 

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Yeah.... I was ..WAS... of the opinion that most breeders actually worked for the betterment of the breed. I'm not so sure anymore. Those poor spaniels. I balled through most of that. I'm almost 100% sure that is a result of "breed standard". I mean... skulls too small for the brain.. WHY??? Why else??

I've long thought that the more divergent the dog is bred from the 'gold standard' of the wolf, the more problems could be caused. This is why I don't like uber short snouts, bulgy eyes, and odd body types or aberrations.

Those breeders of those 'best of breed' GSDs should be shot. Ug. As should those basset breeders and whomever thought that much skin belonged on a mastif. And the breeders of the spaniels should be shot twice. Those animals have to live with that.

That is not what those dogs should look like. Pull up almost any breed photos or painting from 60 or so years ago and what we have now is nothing like what we have now. It's disgusting and if the breeders can't regulate then the gov't should step in. I'm glad at least one country has changed their rules to reflect what is better for the dogs.
 

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I'm curious to see it but am too afraid to watch it. If it's bad enough to make you all cry then I'll be even worse and will dwell on the images for a long long time. I just can't do it.
 
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I watched it too wehn it was on tv over here, and my intial thought was I want nothing more to do with british kennel club, endorcing these things, ALLOWING father to daughter breeding etc etc......

ad that MUPPET saying there is no evidence father to daughter breeding causes problems.
As for culling the rhidgebakcs, I was disgusted at that too, I mean the over pronounced ridge is actually a deofrmity and it is being encoraged?

As for the GSD, how can a dog that cant walk properly be BIS???

I thought th KC and breeders worked to better the breed and that only a fit and healthy dog could win at shows, well i was sooo wrong according to this.

The spaniels were sad too.

breeders i know though have said this documentary only showed the worst cases in each example, and did NOT cover the good things the kc and breeders have done or are doing.

I do agree it didnt give much coverage of the good things being done, a more balanced programme should be made IMHO
 

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I think dog breeding has a lot of shadow side to it to be honest and finding a good caring and really ethical breeder is like finding a needle in a hay stack :(

It's one thing talking the talk....quite another putting it into action. Talk as they say is cheap. It's generally about ego and £££'s unfortunately :(
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You can do a search here for when this was posted some time ago. There was a lot of controversy on this and a lot of breeder's got in on the subject so it may be helpful for you to find it;-)

I look at it like this. Most of the time these Documentaries are one sided and they are skipping tons of research and information from other specialists, breeders, doctors that are telling their side of the story;-) I am sure some of it is true esp. inbreeding, but I do believe in line breeding and setting a line, I also believe that outcrossing is much more dangerous than line breeding as you do not know what can pop up in a line if you outcross. Inbreeding and linebreeding in dogs is much different than in humans although I do firmly believe you can have major issues with cross breeding/outcrossing but what it really does is bring the worst of the worst to surface, the guy saying this isnt true has apparently never inbred a line? I am not a breeder and have never bred but this is what I have found to be true through my own research and having endless discussions with other very well known breeders, I was dilligent in finding a healthy, well bred, well tempermented Great Dane after seeing what I saw in rescue as well as having two pass away before the age of 5 yrs (actually young for a dane to die) I was determined to find lines that were bred correctly, with longevity;-)

JMHO :)
 
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