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I wanted a place where I can keep track of how Biscuit is doing and what he is eating as well as my expense as we go 100% raw. Yesterday, I toyed with it a bit giving him a chicken neck to try. Today we are crossing over and NOT looking back. The kibble has been given to a neighbor in need so all that is in the house for Biscuit to eat is chicken at this point.

This is mostly for me to keep track of things while it is new, but I will welcome any input or advice as I go.

Expense:

3 lbs (37 pieces) chicken necks $0.99
2 chicken thighs $0.50
2 whole chicken wings $0.30

Going to get some more today and prepare it into single servings and then freeze it so it is ready to go when we need it. I also plan on finding a scale for me to measure portions better.

Meals:

Breakfast: 2 oz approx. of chicken wing, meat only $0.10

snack: 2 oz of chicken neck $0.03

Lunch : 2 oz chicken wing segment (drumstick) $0.10

Dinner: 2 oz chicken thigh $0.10

Snack (if needed) : half of a chicken neck $0.02

Biscuit's progress

Breakfast: Cleaned his bowl and was immediately ready for a nap (totally normal as it was 6:30am. We had gone outside to potty and had our morning walk around the block before he ate.

Lunch: Ate all of his wing segment and was still hungry so I offered a chicken neck that he nibbled and chewed on for a while. After lunch walk produced what I think is the first raw poo. It was very tiny, not constipated, just small.

Snack: Remainder of chicken neck and some cottage cheese (his favorite treat)

Dinner: Ate all of his thigh meat and was very satisfied. Walked and took a nap.

Will most likely go out again around 10-11pm and we will walk the whole block again. This usually puts him to sleep for the night.

So far there have been no ill effects from switching to raw. I am crossing my fingers that we are not going to get the runny poos. I am trying to keep the bone content a little high for the first few days in hopes that that will keep those problems at bay. We live on the third floor and I do not allow for potty pads in the house so I am not sure if we could make it outside if need be in time.
 

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Day 2

So today we started our day with our morning walk around the block. Nice small tootsie roll sized poo! Then we returned home for breakfast.

Breakfast: Boneless Chicken breast 2 oz portion

Lunch: Chicken thigh 2 oz diced up with some cottage cheese mixed in.

Snack: 1 oz portion of chicken wing meat off the bone and 1 oz of chicken liver Mixed with a little (half a tsp) cottage cheese as he ate all of the meat, but none of the liver. With the cottage cheese, he happily ate all of the liver.

Dinner: Chicken neck with 1 oz breast meat. CHANGE OF PLANS: Dinner will be a chicken neck with a nibble or two of extra meat. His afternoon poo was a little runnier than I would like :foxes15: I am upping his bone content for his final meal of the day.


One major change that I am noticing is his energy level. I don't know if it is due to his age (9 weeks) or if it is due to the change in his food. But all day yesterday after he ate he was running around and playing like crazy! He is doing so again today. On kibble after a meal it was pretty much set in stone that he would take a long nap.

Another major change that I am liking very much....He no longer smells like kibble! Just clean.

At first I was very hesitant to go raw, but right now I am so glad that I did.
 

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So I missed a few days here while traveling. But I am very pleased with our progress. Biscuit has had beef, pork, lamb, goat, and squirrel while we were gone and loved it all. Today is shopping day, so we will he going to the market to find lots of yummy things and then come home and portion it out for his meals into freezer bags. This week we are adding organs! Yumm O!
 

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Everything has been going great on our raw diet. I am loving the hunt for new and exciting things for him to try. since Biscuit has done so well on chicken, we have added all proteins in as well as organs. He does not like whole or sliced organ meat so I am making an organ slurry that I coat his meals with. Poos are small and firm and he is going on average once a day.

Thanks to the help of some wonderful people here, I did learn in the last 2 days that I was over feeding the little booger, by a lot! So I am back to the drawing boards on portion sizes, but it is quick and easy to work out.

I am to feed him 3% of his expected adult weight (not 8-10% like I have been) or I can feed him 8-10% of his current weight. So this cuts the amount he gets in a day from 8 ounces to 2.5 ounces or 4 ounces per day. That is a BIG difference. Since I already have things portioned into 2 ounce servings he will simply be getting only one and a fourth of those a day. We shall see how this goes. I hope he will not be hungry as he is accustomed to eating sooo much more. But I think doing what is best for him and his health is the right thing to do. If he is still hungry on the 2.5 ounces a day I can increase up to 4 ounces if need be.

He is growing and looking so much better on his new raw diet. I cannot believe the changes that I have seen in him. To me this is definitely worth the effort. His coat is shiny-er, his breath does not smell, he no longer smells like kibble is oozing out of his skin, and he is FULL of wonderful puppy energy.
 

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Awesome Stephanie! I love reading your posts.

Just watch his body condition. Raw fed puppies grow slow and steady. Keep him at a normal weight, not pudgy but not excessively lean. Then adjust his portions up or down depending on how he looks. Go more by that then what the scale shows. You should be able to feel ribs when you rub your hand over him, but not see them when he's walking around.

So proud of you and the great job you are doing! :)
 

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Thanks Lady Bug! Since I have had him since he was so tiny and young I am having a bit of a time judging the pudge factor. He tends to do like human children and bulk up a bit then grow over night. He has grown since starting raw, but not excessively. But he has gotten a little pudgy over the last week and I can't tell if we are hitting a growth spurt (as we are hitting the 3 month mark) or if it is the over feeding. I am hoping that by cutting back on portions I get my answer.

He does however seem so much sturdier. I know that because he was so young when we got him that he didn't get all that he needed nutritionally from mom and I think by him eating nutritionally complete food it is improving his overall health dramatically. His hair is fuller, his muscle definition is changing, his eyes have more sparkle, and all that stuff. It is almost as though he is making up for what he lost.

I don't think that in reality I was really over feeding him by that much though because I am offering meaty bones at least every other day and he doesn't really eat that much of those. He chews on them eats a little and when he is done there is usually a lot left of meat and bone there, so mostly his diet is the boneless meals of meat and organs with a little bone. I am just trying to let him be my guide and relax through this. I kind of feel like he will tell me what he needs.
 

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OMG, I think I was actually over feeding and that is why he didn't want to eat the bones! So today he has had the scaled back portions for his meals and tonight I gave him a chicken neck and he is chomping that sucker down! YAY! And yes I know they are really boney, but these also have a lot of fat and skin so the kind of balance out the extra lean stuff he gets the rest of the time.
 

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Can't believe I didn't see this before! I'll be checking in! I made a raw diet journey thread for Kahlua ages ago too and it was really helpful at the time to go back and see the notes! Keep up the great work! =D
 

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Aw I wish I would have done something like this so I could have tracked all of Onyx's raw improvements.

And about him now eating his bones due to feeding correct amounts, he was probably trying to tell you "mommy I don't have any room for all of these bones" haha.
 

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So this morning I stopped by the butchers and got a few yummy things to try out and I found Green tripe!

So for breakfast he got to have some duck breast and loved that. The rest is in the freezer

And for dinner Vinison Yumm!

Oh and I found ostrich, bone in quail, elk, and wild boar! Those are on the list of to gets, but I CAN get them.
 

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Oh wow, I am so jealous! The green tripe will be a big hit I'm sure. And duck too; how lucky. I can never find any much for "exotic" meat around here though we do have an ostrich farm not far! You'll have to let us know how he likes everything if you order any! =D
 

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Oh wow, I am so jealous! The green tripe will be a big hit I'm sure. And duck too; how lucky. I can never find any much for "exotic" meat around here though we do have an ostrich farm not far! You'll have to let us know how he likes everything if you order any! =D
How close are you to Chicago or do you ever get to Chicago?

This is where I found the meat and all of their stuff is top notch.

https://www.paulinameatmarket.com/

You can order from them and have it shipped, but I am not sure what the cost would be for that.

The tripe I found at the farmer's market. I simply walked up to the meat vendors and asked if they have it available and he said yes so next wed. morning we will be trying that out.
 

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Wow lucky you! I feed quite a bit of venison but it can be pretty pricey since it is hard to find here. I do get big racks of venison ribs for $3.45 a pound though. Venison, bison, and goat are my main staples. I'd love to have Onyx try ostrich.

I've read on a few raw feeding posts that you shouldn't feed raw wild boar due to the possibility of it carrying a deadly parasite.
 

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Green tripe is an amazing food for dogs, it is so nutritious and they love it. As we don't feed any veg on this raw diet, I think green tripe is a great addition as it contains digested grass so provides any veggie goodness they might need. Be warned though, it really stinks! Like cow poo, but worse!
It is fantastic that you have so many different meats to pick from. I bet quail will be a hit.
 

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Crap on the wild boar! I thought it would be good. But thanks for the heads up on that. I would have never guessed.

And I kind of figured on the green tripe. I grew up on a farm so the poo smell doesn't really bother me too much as I am kind of used to it and well we have had to tube a cow or two to purge a stomach and it was not pleasant so I can only assume it would have a similar smell...But regardless the smell is gross!

I am really only buying stuff until my dad and grandpa finish with hunting season toward the end of November. I have dibs on all the inner parts of the kills of deer, elk, and turkey. I also have dibs on the good puppy parts of the beefs that they will be sending to slaughter soon. I am really mostly shopping to see what I can find until then. But By Christmas I should have a few quails, a few pheasants, some grouse, fresh beef, hopefully some deer meat, wild turkey, squirrel, rabbit, and depending on how fat they get between now and then some fresh pork. If all goes as planned I am hoping to not have to shop for meat until next spring at the earliest and be set on organ meat for sure until next fall. But this is how my family eats. I grew up country and we very rarely if ever bought anything from the store food wise we either raised it or hunted for it.
 

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Free deer organ yummies? I HATE you. Lol only joking. I'm jealous though. I wish I had a family of hunters. Most of my friends and family are city people though. They know of nothing more than the meat counter at Safeway :sad3:

I must ask, where the heck do you get squirrel? Haha.
 

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More than likely, I will have to go help hunt some of that while I am home next time, but it is always fun when I get to go so I don't mind. But squirrel we hunt in the woods and shoot out of trees usually. They kind of taste like rabbit. My granny fixes squirrel stew or fries it. It is kind of tasty, but I have to be in the mood for it. Just so you know we aren't crazy!

If you were closer I would share!
 

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Lol I don't think you're crazy. Meat is meat, especially when it comes to the dog. I will literally feed her any meat I can get.

Now I never thought of ME eating squirrel but I'm just like my dog. I'll try just about any meat, cooked of course ha. I think I'm more carnivore than omnivore ;)

Oh if I were closer I'd be begging for some deer heart hehe.
 
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