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ok here goes
when i bought honey i had to sign a piece of paper i wasnt to breed her
she kc/ped
so how come a breeder can do that?
does it mean they only let their male dogs breed?
when i got honey breeding never crossed my mind
but maybe in a few years i would like to have a few more pups running around my house
but that would mean id have to buy them
so how do breeders get into breeding if alot of breeders wont let you breed your dog?
just thought id ask
 

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Yes that is called limited registration. You can breed her you just can't register the litter. Some breeders do that for getting more money, if you say you want to breed they usually ask for more money.
 

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I think it is a good thing - as there are many people (not refering to you babayjane) out there who dont know how to breed dogs and they just go ahead and do it and the pups end up dying and they also loose there bitch :cry:
 

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ive never really encountered ne breeder in the uk actualy saying you have to sign ne thing or ne thing like that. Altho i have seen some state that the bitch is for pet only, they usualy then dont register her full stop.
ive herd of quite alot f regulations in the us tho like neuter agreements
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i had to sign something that they had done on their comp it said we would be buying her as a pet and we werent breeding her,funny thing is it was my hubby that signed it an not me,he kinda likes to do that,lol,brings out the man side in him,anyway he also filled out the kc reg document when we got home,oh an the breeder is breeding again next year
on honeys generation line i noticed that non of her grandparents etc had been champ dogs etc,my aunt says i should have offered £100 less to buy her as i wasnt allowed to breed her,but money means nowt to me,honeys worth you cant put a price tag on her.
 

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maybe if none of her pedigree were champs etc - maybe they didnt want her bred as it would not be bettering the breed as such :wave:
 

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Some breeders look at the overall pup and make the decision as to future breeding, etc. Maybe the bite is not good, or they are too large or too small to breed, the coat, the color, the top line, the head shape, the ear set, all of these are things that the typical chi lover is not looking for. The breeder may feel that anything that is not show quality is "pet" and should be sold as pet. Maybe it was an experimental breeding and the breeder knew that they did not want to continue the line. The breeder that I got my male from did not have me sign a spay/neuter agreement, she had 4 litters, but now I see that she is requesting the agreement. If you are planning on breeding, she wants to know-then she will probably be charging more for the pup. She is already quite high-nothing below $600. It also will keep her edge on the market. She has increased her bitches by 4, so she now has 8 and her males by 1, so she has 3 males. But I feel that a breeder that requests a spay/neuter agreement should also stand well behind the breed. The male puppy that I bought had an umbilical hernia-the breeder was not will to step up and help with the cost of the surgery to repair. The pups had never been to the vet, she wormed and gave her own shots. So I would expect a breeder to offer a vet check with a worming and first shot, if they want the agreement.
If you are only looking for a great pet, then spay/neuter and don't worry about having to sign the agreement. :wave:
 

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Lots of breeders are more concerned with what happens to thier puppies then others. Good Ethic breeders sale puppies different ways such as there being breeding quality pet quality and show quality usally breeding and show quality is in the same. When a pet quality puppy is sold it is usally sold on a limited registation or a spay/nueter contract. Breeding quality is sold for more with full reg and so is show quality. Honey must have been sold as a pet if these breeders work this way.
 

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The breeder that I brought Lola from told me that some breeders that she knows about only sells with a spray/neuter contract because, then they are unable to compete in AKC events and are unable to compete against the dam and/or sire... although i am not sure if this is true, i could see how a breeder that is into showing would try something like this, although i do believe most breeders that require this do care more about the well being of the pup.. :)
 

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babyjane1968 said:
ok here goes
when i bought honey i had to sign a piece of paper i wasnt to breed her
she kc/ped
so how come a breeder can do that?
does it mean they only let their male dogs breed?
when i got honey breeding never crossed my mind
but maybe in a few years i would like to have a few more pups running around my house
but that would mean id have to buy them
so how do breeders get into breeding if alot of breeders wont let you breed your dog?
just thought id ask
Breeders who have a contract stating you will not breed the dog is because.
1. They are protecting thier bloodlines and dont want it in the wrong hands.
2. They feel the dog/puppy is not breed quality,but pet quality.
3. Yes, you pay more for breed/show quality than you do for pet quality.
4. A pet dog might have a genetic fault which will not interfere with its health but keep it from being breed/show quality. Like being over 6 pounds. The breed standard here in the USA for a chihuahua.
Hope that clarifys the subject a little. 8)
 

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i had to sign one of those too! i had totally forgotten that until now... funny that i had to sign one and then it turned out my puppy had a congenital heart murmur :roll: then the breeder denied that there was anything wrong with her breeding line... so tricky!

are there a lot of breeders who require these forms to be signed? from what i remember with my parents buying dogs i had never encountered it before. just curious since there are a lot of breeders here :)
 

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Different states have different lemon laws on dogs. look them up. I my self if I had a litter and decided to sell pups would give a restricted reg.
my reasons are different then others every person that breeds has their own contracts. I for one would not want any of my dogs to be used as mill dogs or money makers. Some of us have to admit we dont know when to stop acquiring Chi's lol. There are those of us that can handle a house load the more the merrier. And those that just acquire them but cant give them the time of day. So for my own piece of mind if that day should come. I doubt if i will sell with out restrictions. There are many rescues also that need forever homes. No reason for me to contribute to over population. i breed for a hobby not for financial gain. These are my Children. I was even considering haveing a thing where if someone not as fortunate as us to purchase a chi and wanted one when i had a litter they write an essay on why they should get one from me. What would make them the special forever home to acquire my pup.
To each his own i always say... but that doesnt mean we must agree lol :wink:
 
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