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hi, i am brand new to the site. i was the proud owner of a 2.5 pound chi who was perfect in every. size, color, attitude. vet even said he was show quality. but he was just a pet to me. i say was because he died about 2 weeks ago and i was heart broken. i had him for almost 2 years. he was fine at noon when my fiance left for work ( he plays banjo for ralph stanley) but when i got home at 6:45 he was dead, and had been for some time. his head appeared filled with fluid and looked bruised on both sides. he was locked in his kennel so i know he wasn't hurt. my vet was very ugly to me about it when i called him for an answer so i was wandering if anyone had seen or heard of anything like this befor. i had bread him just two weeks befor so i will have a new puppy in july. i am still looking for a red female too. ANY ANSWERS ARE WELCOMED !! carolyn
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Oh how sad! :cry:

Very sorry for your loss.

The vet wouldn't do an autopsy? or any kind of investigation?

Sorry I can't offer any advice. I have never heard of this, he didn't have a fall or injury recently?
 

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nope, no fall , no fight, no change in habbits, just died. i just couldnt do the autopsy. my fiance had just lost his father so i had my neighbors help bury him befor he got home. thanks though for your reply. chi people are soooo caring. thanks again. carolyn
 

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Im so sorry!, what a shock that must have been for you.
The only thing i can think of that could have caused this, is a condition called hydrocephalus, which can occur often in chihuahuas. It is a condition where the chi has excess fluid in the brain.

here is some info i found for you on the subject.
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What is hydrocephalus?

With hydrocephalus there is an abnormal build-up of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) in cavities ( the ventricles) in the brain. The resulting increased pressure on the brain causes the clinical signs that occur with this condition.

Hydrocephalus can be primary (congenital ) - the animal is born with the condition, or secondary - the condition is acquired later in life due to some disease process that blocks normal drainage of the CSF. The primary form, discussed here, is seen most often in brachycephalic (dogs with a shortened head) and toy breeds.

How is hydrocephalus inherited?

The mode of inheritance is unknown, but there is a predisposition to this condition in the breeds listed below.

What breeds are affected by hydrocephalus?

Toy breeds - Cairn terrier, chihuahua, Maltese, Manchester terrier, pomeranian, toy poodle, Yorkshire terrier - and brachycephalic breeds - Boston terrier, English bulldog, Lhasa apso, Pekingese, Shih tzu

For many breeds and many disorders, the studies to determine the mode of inheritance or the frequency in the breed have not been carried out, or are inconclusive. We have listed breeds for which there is a consensus among those investigating in this field and among veterinary practitioners, that the condition is significant in this breed.

What does hydrocephalus mean to your dog & you?

Puppies with severe hydrocephalus often die at a very early age due to pressure from the increased fluid in the brain. In other less severely affected pups, the signs gradually become apparent over the first few months of life, and in some mild cases the condition is only diagnosed later in life.

The types of signs seen with this condition include unthriftiness (smaller than littermates, slow to grow), a domed skull (which gradually becomes more pronounced), abnormal movement behaviours (restlessness, aimless walking), problems with vision, and seizures. These pups are very slow to learn - it may be extremely difficult to housetrain them for example.

Generally the signs gradually worsen, although by 2 years of age they may stabilize. To minimize brain damage, the condition must be recognized and appropriate treatment begun early. However, affected animals will likely always be slow and have a limited ability to learn.

How is hydrocephalus diagnosed?

Hydrocephalus can be difficult to diagnose. Your veterinarian will consider the combination of physical, behavioural and neurological abnormalities in your dog. The diagnosis can be confirmed by MRI or CT scanning, or by ultrasonography in some cases.

For the veterinarian: Ultrasonography can be performed through an open fontanelle to confirm ventricular enlargement. An open fontanelle is not diagnostic per se of hydrocephalus, as it may occur in a normal healthy dog.

Some hydrocephalic dogs have a bilateral divergent strabismus ("setting sun sign").

How is hydrocephalus treated?

Corticosteroids are used, and then gradually tapered off, with the aim of lowering the amount of cerebrospinal fluid in the brain. Your veterinarian may also prescribe short-term diuretics with the same goal. Treatment often needs to be repeated, although some dogs will stabilize by about 2 years of age. Affected dogs are susceptible to other medical problems and may have a poor tolerance to various drugs.

Phenobarbital may be required in dogs that experience seizures.

A sophisticated procedure that may be of some benefit in severe cases of hydrocephalus is surgical placement of a permanent shunt to drain the fluid. Your veterinarian will refer you to a specialist if you wish to to consider this option.

Depending on the severity of the clinical signs, and recognizing the ongoing medical problems these dogs may face, your veterinarian will likely discuss with you humane euthanasia as another option for your pup.

Breeding advice

Affected animals should not be bred. Even though little is known about the heritability of this condition, it is also preferable to avoid breeding dogs who are unaffected but have a familial history of hydrocephalus.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS DISORDER, PLEASE SEE YOUR VETERINARIAN.

Resources

Ackerman, L. 1999. The Genetic Condition: A Guide to Health Problems in Purebred Dogs. pp 135-136. AAHA Press. Lakewood, Colorado.

Copyright © 1998 Canine Inherited Disorders Database. All rights reserved.
Revised: October 30, 2001.
 

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oh gosh thank you ao much, that may have been just the answer i needed. harlan did have trouble with house breaking and his soft spot never closed completly. that was the best answer i have gotten yet. again thank you. i feel i can rest now. carolyn :wave:
 

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oh my goodness, i am so so sorry for your loss and so sorry that u didnt have the advice you needed from your vet, this really does sicken me, if he is a proffesional vet then he would have taken the time to examine your baby or even give you the advice and comfort you so badly needed :cry:

I am happy for you getting a chi pup soon and even happier that it will be the baby of your lost chi :D If i was you i would change vets and make sure you get your new baby properly looked over just to be sure :D

GOOD LUCK and thanks for sharing your story, it is a big eye opener for us all.
 

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hi amie, thank you so much for your thoughts. i have already changed vets and will go there first with my new baby. maybe by the time i get the pup i will have a digital camera and can post its picture. carolyn
 

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sorry about your baby

Hi Carolyn. I am so sorry to ear about your chi baby dying. It is so hard to lose a beloved pet. At least you will have a new baby to love, not to take his place, but to help mend your heart.

I am mama to a hydrocephalus chi named Honeybunch. What I think may have happened is that he may have suffered a seizure, due to hydrocephalus or something else, and he probably hit his head against his kennel and that is the cause of the bruising. I do wish you had let them do a necropsy(autopsy). That way you could know for sure why your little one had to die. My Honeybunch is 2 yr and 4 months. We never thought she would live past 4 months or so.

Good luck in finding a little red girl. Where do you live?

Mama J
 

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Oh my goodness im so sorry to hear about your loss this is so sad :cry: Im so glad to hear that you changed vets.

Mia thank you for the information
 

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hi mama j,
i live in kentucky near lexington. i am so glad i found this site. i have gotten so many answers to my questions. ya know...i kind of wish i would have had an autopsy done too but i just dont think steve or i could have done it. that baby was our child together and neither of us had the heart . sounds crazy to people who dont have pet for us to call the kids but that is just what they are. we should be getting our new baby around july and will be getting married soon too, i hope. ( been engaged 4 years now ) bout time huh. LOL thanks again, carolyn
 

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awww i know how you feel, chihuahuas r like eternal babys, congratulations on the wedding :D i really think u shud rush up the isle b4 that baby comes, that way itll be born in wedlock, :lol:, and i hope u get a digi cam soon wud love to see some pics of the baby and the wedding!
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I was going to say the same answer as Mia. I also know that it is more associated with the smaller Chis. i am not sure whether it is an ihherited possibility though so you might want to look that up since you bred him before he passed. better safe then sorry and you can watch for s.gns.
I know there is medication for dogs that have this condition which is supposed to help.
 

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i know how you feel about chi's being children me and my husband have been trying for children almost 2 years now and are unable to conc. i can't wait to bring my little bailey home they really are children and they are a wonderful breed to be children i know you will find a chi baby soon and i know you will find warmth and happiness in her.though you have the heart break of the loss of your child chi i know you will miss him still i lost a baby two weeks ago when i delivered 6 puppies to my sister inlaws chi we saw the puppy his legs his coloring but the sack was brook and he was not coming out though i morn over the loss of seven(his name since he was 7th to come out) i feel joy that i will have bailey with me so don't give up u will find a baby soon

with warm wishes jen
 

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I am sorry for your loss. When I lost ChiChi I found a lot of comfort at this one site. I can't remember the address but if you look up The Rainbow Bridge you should be able to find it.
 

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I am so sorry for your loss.........I too am glad you changed vets, makes syou wonder why people like that get in this business, you would think they love animals.
 

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Rainbow Bridge
Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge.

When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge.
There are meadows and hills for all of our special friends so they can run and play together.
There is plenty of food, water and sunshine, and our friends are warm and comfortable.

All the animals who had been ill and old are restored to health and vigor; those who were hurt or maimed are made whole and strong again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days and times gone by.
The animals are happy and content, except for one small thing; they each miss someone very special to them, who had to be left behind.

They all run and play together, but the day comes when one suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent; His eager body quivers. Suddenly he begins to run from the group, flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster.

You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain upon your face; your hands again caress the beloved head, and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart.

Then you cross Rainbow Bridge together....

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I'm so sorry you lost you lost your Chi the way you did and you had a terrible experience with the vet. I hope you find a new vet that is caring and compassionate.

I found this site when I recently lost my cat, Halley, to renal failure (2 weeks ago). http://www.petloss.com/ Unless you've owned a pet, no one can quite understand what it's like to loose a pet. There aren't just a pet, they are family. I had Halley for 9 years. It breaks my heart everytime my 2 year old looks at me and says "Hayhay night night". His nickname was Hayhay.
 
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